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Pastoral Foundation Training (Course 301) - Lesson 2 Assignment

1. Listen to the above recordings.
2. Take notes diligently.
3. Based on the topic of this lesson, raise your confusions or questions.
4. Submit your notes and questions to your pastoral leader.
5. Then proceed to the next lesson.

(06:00)

1. Several biblical perspectives: 1. The Lord is my shepherd; 2. Jesus said, "If you love me, feed my sheep"; 3. The church is the army of the Lord. I would like the pastor to briefly introduce how to connect these perspectives. For those who are new to seeking, how to initiate a dialogue with them and provoke their reflection on the concept of "church"? (Qinqin)

(15:40)

2. A new sister is facing problems with her homework, she cannot type, and I taught her to share using voice messages. She feels that her education level is not good and that she is illiterate. She values prayer more. How should I teach her in this situation? (Suni)

Establishing Pastoral Relationships

1. I find that most people like to teach others. Sometimes, even when they are just talking nonsense, when you correct them, they turn around and want to teach you, resulting in living with a fiery atmosphere all day long. Is a pastoral relationship a top-down relationship, and must the friendship be removed to have a pastoral relationship? Can a pastoral relationship coexist with a peer relationship? (Ben)

(25:30)

2. Teacher, in building relationships with the sisters I pastor, I can help them solve problems by teaching the Word of God, dealing with their bad habits, conveying faith, and expressing love in various forms. In what other ways can I improve myself and promote pastoral relationships?

3. Please tell me, a pastoral relationship is service in love. How should this "love" be measured so that both myself and the person being pastored can benefit? (Xuanyun)

4. Teacher, please tell me, when we pastor with sincerity, and the person being pastored also seems sincere at first, but gradually we find that they seem to be playing a game, what should we do? (Xuanyun)

(34:10)

5. The teacher mentioned in the course that we are a loving whole, and whether we can pass on God's love depends entirely on the pastoral relationship. How can this sentence be better understood? (Xiaonai)

6. Teacher, if a pastor has the heart of a parent, does it depend on the extent of the relationship with each person being served? (Ruying)

7. To build a pastoral relationship in love, some of the sheep being pastored are passive, do not actively contact the pastor, and do not report their situation. How can we make the sheep being pastored more proactive? (David)

8. Teacher, does a person who has some discernment of good and evil still need to establish a relationship? If a pastoral relationship needs to be established, how should it be established? What are some good ways to build a relationship? (Ma Xile)

9. In the process of pastoring, some people do not have the need for healing and deliverance, and their finances are okay, so they rarely take the initiative to contact the pastor. They just like to listen to the teacher's sermons, but they do not put them into practice. Although it is clear that they love the world and love money, the curse does not seem to have come upon them yet. It seems that teaching more has little effect. Teacher, how can we establish a close pastoral relationship with such people to help them grow?

(40:10)

10. Teacher, do you have any special strategies for building pastoral relationships with people who are like a closed clam?

11. I am currently serving a sister, and the establishment of the pastoral relationship has been quite bumpy. What should I do to push it forward? Specific situation: After serving for a few months, I recently started to lead her in healing and deliverance, and exorcism. Currently, the idea of "no need to listen to you" is quite obvious. Some basic requirements for new believers' training and the development of learning habits, such as attending meetings on time and taking notes, she repeatedly ignores after I ask her to do them, and only moves after being pushed a few times. I want to understand if she has encountered any difficulties. After listening to her description, they are all problems that can be solved, but she stubbornly believes that there is no way to solve them, and she cannot listen to other teachings. I can feel that she does not want to follow the growth path designed by the church and prefers to follow her own preferences. I think this is related to her not agreeing with our pastoral relationship. How can we truly establish a relationship next?

(46:15)

12. When pastoring a sister, she initially showed a strong aversion to me, and did not mention any prayer requests, only posting things in the group that she thought needed "prayer." She was also impatient to listen to teachings. Later, she said that she suddenly no longer disliked me and was willing to take the initiative to ask me to pray. Every time I led her in prayer, there was a lot of release. Then I found that although she would not argue, she did not really listen to the teachings. Her views on offerings, the church, and pastoral relationships were all based on her own internal logic system. When I pointed out her problems in the hope that she would be blessed, she just did not understand and kept explaining. In this process, I often do not know to what extent I have established a relationship with her. How should I move forward?

13. The person being pastored does not tell the pastor all the problems, but only comes to the pastor when they really cannot solve them themselves. What is the extent of this pastoral relationship? (Baiga)

(53:30)

14. As a pastor, I am very willing to pastor with sincerity, but some people (these people generally do not have physical illnesses, and are unwilling to talk about other problems) just want to follow the church to listen to the pastor's Bible study and sermons and prayers, and do not want to be pastored, nor do they think they have any problems. They regard the pastor's initiative to care as a disturbance and restraint, and are very unappreciative. When the pastor points out the areas where they need to grow, they do not buy it. It makes the pastor feel like they are trying too hard and it is not a good deal. How to establish a pastoral relationship with such people? How to inspire people's desire to be pastored? (Yanzi)

(1:00:30)

15. How to judge a healthy relationship between a pastor and a servant, and what aspects does it manifest in? (Happy Fen)

16. The person being served is very obedient, and completes the things arranged by the pastor. Is this a healthy relationship? (Happy Fen)

17. Is "paying the price" the most important thing in pastoring? (Liangliang)

(1:06:30)

18. In the process of pastoring, I start to become lazy and not as enthusiastic and willing to pay the price as I was at the beginning. Now I am pastoring someone who has the same problem as me. How can we grow together? (Beautiful Girl)

19. Whether I am pastoring my own family or other people, my heart is full of enthusiasm, and I feel like I am being sincere, but the results of pastoring are not optimistic. What is the problem? Teacher, what is true pastoring?

20. Does the relationship of mutual love mentioned in the church only exist between the pastor and the sheep? Like our current situation, different pastoral districts, different pastors, and the sheep may not know each other. Will there be a loving relationship because we are in the same church and have the same Mingding? (Qianqian)

(1:16:30)

21. Teacher, how to establish a good pastoral relationship? What specific work needs to be done?

22. Teacher, when the person being pastored and the pastor have different views on the same issue, what should the person being pastored do?

23. Teacher, the person being pastored has the bad habit of pretending. What special methods can be used to deal with this in the process of building a relationship with him?

24. If a person is lukewarm, how to judge whether this is a spiritual bondage or a problem with the person's own attitude? How to establish a pastoral relationship with a lukewarm person?

(1:21:00)

25. I once pastored Sister XX and was really willing to pay the price to serve her. She could not lie down to sleep and often suffocated. I took her to pray day and night, but later when I taught her and dealt with some of her carnal bad habits, she was very unwilling to listen and did not like to listen to my teachings, only wanting me to lead her in prayer. I believe that my pastoral relationship with her is very good and that I love her because I brought her into our Chinese Mingding Doctrine and wanted to solve her problems. Please tell me, what is wrong with my pastoring? Why are my teachings annoying? I am clearly loving her, but I am considered not to love her. How should I handle this situation? (Meizi)

Carnal Bad Habits

1. Teacher, please tell me, sometimes dealing with the bad habits of the person being served requires severity, but also requires grasping the strength. However, it is difficult for me to be severe, and I do not know how to grasp the strength. Can you teach me a few tips?
2. How to pastor a loser-type person?
3. Please tell me, "When you see a person growing, the most important thing is to deal with his bad habits. If you want to deal with them, it is a conflict." If there is a conflict, how should it be handled after the conflict? (Xuanyun)
4. Teacher, how to build the other person's faith while breaking down the flesh? How to grasp the relationship and degree between the two? Is it in the process of breaking down the flesh that the other person sees their own growth, and at the same time their faith is built up? (Suni)
5. When to push work. There is a full-time mother who just picks up and drops off her children every day and does not have a job. She has been with us for more than half a year. When is a good time to encourage her to work? (Gideon)

(1:25:30)

6. Some sheep have experienced a lot of God's grace. As soon as you deal with their flesh, they become anxious, and sometimes they cannot hear God's word, are unwilling to leave, and cannot move forward. How to pastor in this situation?
7. In the process of pastoring, dealing with people's bad habits will inevitably cause conflict. Sometimes, even if there is no conflict, you have to create conflict. Teacher, can you talk about how to create conflict, manage conflict, and transform conflict?

Love of the World (1:27:15)

1. Through the study of this lesson, I learned how to establish a loving pastoral relationship with the person being pastored, which is to serve with the heart of a father and mother, weeping with those who weep. Then the teacher also said that pastoring should learn to deal with people's problems. I feel that this point is not easy to grasp. A sister is very enthusiastic about serving her father and often writes in her notes how she pays the price to serve her father. She also often runs outside to serve brothers and sisters in other churches. However, when dealing with her own problems, she often sits on the bed and prays when attending prayer meetings, and then falls asleep. Teacher, is this person playing a game? This sister hopes that I can serve her father, but her father has always loved the world and is unwilling to believe in God, so the situation is constantly repeating. I feel that serving in this way is also ineffective. So I would like to ask the teacher, how can we both weep with those who weep and deal with this sister's bad habits in this situation?

(1:32:30)

2. The person being pastored went to the hospital because of a serious illness. In this situation, what else do we need to do besides caring and greeting? (Xuelian)

About Lack of Understanding

1. About lack of understanding. A sister often listens to sermons, but her understanding is never clear. For example, she keeps staring at whether her husband is reading the Bible or praying. If he reads, she is happy. How to teach this type of person? (Gideon)

Healing and Deliverance

1. Teacher, I am very selfish and indulgent in my flesh, but I really want to be a sincere person who pays the price to serve. The biggest challenge is sleep. Sometimes after going to bed late, I am very energetic the next day and my faith is doubled. Sometimes my head is dizzy and my body is uncomfortable, so I indulge in my flesh again, and then I blame myself. The pastor said to look at the trend of your growth with a developmental perspective, but I have not been able to implement this point. I always feel that this is accepting my sin. Teacher, should I put down these messy thoughts and believe that God will definitely help me?

Pastoring Children

(1:39:15)

1. I started pastoring my children. My son is 16 years old and my daughter is 13 years old. They have both been in the church with us for many years. After studying this lesson, I feel that in terms of pastoral relationships, I have fatherly love for them, but many times I feel that I am too considerate of them. Many times I feel that if I push them too hard, they will be disgusted and the effect will be counterproductive. Is it more difficult for parents to pastor their own children than for ordinary brothers and sisters? Is pastoring one's own children a suitable start for a Christian who is just beginning to learn how to pastor? (Bryan)

Financial Problems

(1:41:45)

1. I have been serving a sister for about 4 months. When she first came, it was because of financial problems. She and her husband used to invest every time, but they were either cheated or the investment failed, and they have been struggling for decades. Not long ago, they borrowed 600,000 yuan to invest in tungsten mines, but because various procedures could not be completed, it has been stalled. The partner said they would refund the money to them, but it has been delayed for more than a month and has not been refunded. This sister is very worried. My question is, should I care about her financial problems or the problems behind her financial problems? This sister is easily worried about worldly things and has a very lacking mentality, so my idea is to build her faith in God and start to become a person who trusts in God. Is this correct? (Vivian)

About Pastoring Family Members

(1:47:30)

1. The church teaches us about the relationship between pastoring and being pastored. If we are not inside the church, such as in family relationships and workplace relationships, how should we establish healthy interpersonal relationships? Can we apply this spiritual principle? How to apply it? Thank you, teacher, for your guidance. (Anqi)

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