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【Bible Study】Job Chapters 32-37 - Elihu and Job's Understanding of God! (Part 1)

2015-10-24 28,566 Job Knowing God

Part 1: Elihu's Understanding of God

We often encounter Christians who have believed for many years, yet their spiritual life remains weak. Do you aspire to be a resounding Christian? Are you truly willing to lay down your life for God? When your work conflicts with serving God, would you forsake your work to serve Him? Today, let Pastor Liu lead us in making such choices, in becoming a resounding Christian!

Questions for Reflection:

In what aspects does Elihu's understanding of God manifest?

How does God manifest the glory of His power through us?

When you encounter difficulties or temptations, do you perceive them as God attacking you?

First Understanding: The Nature of God

What Elihu states is a fact. I believe Elihu is expressing a declaration on behalf of God, letting people know what kind of God He is. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16). Which of us can boldly declare, God, I thank You; I am willing to lay down my life?

Are you truly willing to lay down your life for God? When your work and serving God conflict, wouldn't it be good to slightly set aside your work to gain rest? I have set it aside before. After setting it aside, God bestowed upon me honour and nobility, exalting me step by step.

A sister came among us, but later could not agree, left the church and returned to the workplace. Afterwards, she returned to us again because she received a warning letter, stating she had 60 days left in her job. After returning for only a few days, as a glimpse of reversal appeared in her job, she left the church again. She valued her job as if it were her life. A few days ago, she was dismissed.

If you can preserve your job by your own ability, then pursue that path. But as for me, I absolutely do not rely on myself; I rely on the God who loves me. Since He gave me Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, will He not also freely give me all things? If I do not seize hold of God, what is the point of clinging onto anything else? Actually, I am well qualified to cling onto my job, but I know that is not my path, because my answers are all within God.

When Elihu was speaking these words, God used visions to open their ears in their deepest slumber. In their dreams, He instructed them, impressing upon them the lessons they ought to receive, in order to turn them away from their own plans, from acts of pride, to keep back their soul from the pit, and their life from perishing by the sword (Job 33:16-18).

In the Old Testament, God didn't want old Eli to be sentenced to death, repeatedly warning him to turn back to God. God also repeatedly warned Saul, but both refused to turn back, walking in their own schemes.

Today, there are still many in our church who wish to walk in their own schemes. They tell me many things, but none of it is according to the Bible, all are their own plans. You are about to jump into a pit, and God won't stop you, but the choice is yours and mine. This is Elihu's first understanding of God.

Second Understanding: God Redeems My Soul from the Pit; My Life Will See the Light

God performs all these things with mankind, time and again, to redeem their souls from the pit, so that they may be enlightened with the light of life. Today, we must know that God is the God who redeems us. God wants to redeem us from the pit; He performs such things countless times for mankind.

A sinner, no matter when they turn back to God, God will embrace them anew. Although the Bible speaks harshly, saying that for such people, there is no further opportunity for repentance, it speaks very sternly. However, I believe as long as this person truly repents and turns back to God, God will still accept them because God saves people.

Therefore, let us carefully consider whether we treat God’s redemption as a mere rag or as a priceless treasure. You and I were originally without hope, without any expectation; we lived and then died. What we boast in this world is but toil and trouble. Those who haven’t been afflicted with cancer thank God. However, regardless of the disease, it's enough to bear!

What can we boast about in this world? Do you truly know your future? You don't even know if you will see the rising sun tomorrow. What are you boasting about? What are you planning? The time of your death is not up to you. What counts of what you say? What is the point of clinging to your job? Some say, Pastor, you don't understand me. Can I understand you? I tell you, God doesn't understand you either. You don't understand yourself.

Today, I want to say something from the depths of my heart: work cannot save you from the grave. Therefore, when someone tells me certain things, I tell them, Do you understand the reality of the spiritual realm? If you know, then why are you still speaking such nonsense? Among us, there are not many who have absolutely no understanding of the spiritual realm; more or less, we have all seen the reality of the spiritual realm, haven't we? Don't think these things don't exist.

Last Sunday, a couple who came among us called me. The man's mother-in-law has liver cancer and only two months to live. Recently, his mother-in-law often sees the ox-headed and horse-faced deities. It turns out that what we Chinese call the ox-headed and horse-faced deities are not false.

Do you know what that is? That is the spirit of death. He asked me, Why does my mother-in-law keep seeing the ox-headed and horse-faced deities, and what should I do? The spirits of hell are coming to seize your mother-in-law. What should you do? Fight, and repel these spirits of death. But in this world, God has overcome the spirits of hell and death and has placed this authority in your hands. Do we truly cherish and use this authority?

Among us, I believe you will all know how precious this authority is. I am very emotional that someone can experience God but not treat Him as a treasure and often shame God. If I were living in this generation and could return to my country when I was young, if I had the opportunity to continue attending gatherings, I tell you I would never miss one.

Isn't it good to cultivate such a character? To truly know God and His redemption, saving us from hell and death, rescuing human souls from the pit and from hell, and then enabling people to be illuminated by the light and become living beings with spirit! This is such a precious thing, but many people do not value it. I think Elihu's words are so good.

God is Never a God Who Does Evil

When we read the Book of Genesis, we often have non-believers who come among us to study the Bible. God is too harsh, how could He destroy Sodom like that? After listening to them, I say, Friend, if you and I were judges, how would you judge? They ask me to tell them what happened in that place.

I say, In that place, anyone who passes through, from the age of 1 to 70, anyone who enters and merely passes through that place is raped. And the entire city, men, women, young, and old, all do this until they kill the person. I ask you, if that person were your family member, how would you judge that city? They say, They should be sentenced to death!

Today, if we hear about some countries online where they frequently gang-rape children, you would find it hard to accept, wouldn't you? If you are someone who accepts that, do you still have any righteousness or conscience? What does God say? Even if there are fifty, forty, or thirty righteous people, I will not destroy the city for their sake. God would never do evil.

Today, when we see things we don't understand, we should admit that we don't understand, and not judge God. We might think that judging God is forgivable, but it is not, because we do not know God. God has given us His only begotten Son; will He not freely give us all things? Yet we do not treasure Him.

God in heaven sees people trapped in sin, and His spirit cannot rest. God is exceedingly grieved. In the days of Noah, God said, I regret that I have made man on the earth. Do you know how hurt God felt at that time?

Today, there are also some brothers and sisters among us. Actually, I think if everyone truly understands your pastor, I don't want to count the sacrifices your pastor has made for you, because they all come from God. But if what I have sacrificed for you is seen as a control, as a corruption, then I still feel pain in my heart, although my healing ability is quite fast, and I don't really care.

This time when I went back to Taipei, I repeatedly declined, saying that I would take a taxi to the meeting venue from the airport, so there was no need to trouble anyone, but they insisted on sending a car to pick me up. I was very surprised. When I returned to Singapore, I said that I would take a taxi myself, but a pastor insisted on sending me back to the airport. I am very grateful. I would not see such love as a control but rather as an encouragement. I will continue to manifest God's glory in Singapore, inheriting the destiny of Ling Liang Church, believing that this is God's destiny for me.

God Does Not Need You and Me

I will answer you, and your friends with you. Look at the heavens and see; and behold the clouds, which are higher than you. If you sin, what do you accomplish against him? Or if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to him? If you are righteous, what do you give to him? Or what does he receive from your hand? Your wickedness affects a man like yourself, and your righteousness a son of man. (Job 35:4-8)

This part speaks of Elihu's understanding of God: if you do righteousness, God won't gain anything; if you fall into sin, God won't lose anything. God won't be affected by what you do. God is the self-existent God. He does not lack anything. We must not think too highly of ourselves. We bring a heart of gratitude, saying, God, we thank You for saving us from all darkness. We come before You. We cannot add anything to You, but we know that You love us, and You long for us to turn back to You and receive blessings in Your presence.

If you think carefully, you will know that the Earth is like a speck of dust in the universe. People on Earth are like a speck of dust on the Earth. God possesses all things in the universe. We receive what great grace in His presence. It is only because He loves us and wishes us to be saved. As for what we choose, we must never think too highly of ourselves. God neither gains nor loses.

Elihu's understanding of God: As for whether there is one more or one less Job in heaven, is that a great matter? It is only that God longs to be glorified because of us. He longs to share His glory with us and let us benefit. So when Paul wrote the Pauline epistles, he said that he wanted more people to share in the benefits of the gospel. If you come with a purpose, it is to receive blessings before God. I tell you that is the right idea. It's not about what we can do for God. Of course, it's good if you have such a heart because God has already done everything for you.

Today, you must know that you and I are His handiwork before God. But are we willing to let God sculpt us, making us vessels that manifest His glory? Or do we let our own nature decide what we do, and then become vessels for the devil to manifest the powers of darkness?

So today, I hope that our brothers and sisters will all know that we need God, not God needing us. God only loves us and does not want us to perish. He is very saddened when we perish, because He loves us very much.

It is not a joke to see those He created enter into hell. Today, if anyone among us has walked through hell, they would never want to go to that place again. They would run the heavenly road for all their worth, you know? If you don't understand the seriousness of the issue, and still think you can give God something, as if you need to give God some face to believe in Him, then you are mistaken. God doesn't gain much from having us, and doesn't lose much from not having us. Because He Himself is a self-existent God. He Himself is a bountiful God. He is bountiful to such an extent that He wants to give His bounty to us. This is Elihu's understanding of God.

God Honours You and Me

Behold, God is mighty, and does not despise any; he is mighty in strength of understanding. (Job 36:5)

Do you know how good our God is? God is mighty. Although we are like a speck of dust, He does not despise us. Do you know what an honour that is? God highly respects you and me. He is fully capable of stripping you of all your free will, yet He respects you and never despises anyone. He sees us as treasures.

So there is a passage in the New Testament like this: the kingdom of heaven is like a man seeking treasure, and then finding that treasure, and then he buries that treasure in the field, and then sells all that he owns and buys that field, in order to obtain the treasure in his field. And then many people thought that we were the ones burying the treasure. Actually, after careful consideration, it turns out that God is the one burying the treasure.

He disregards everything to buy the treasure in the field. It turns out that you and I are that treasure. You need to know that those with faith are seen as treasures in God's eyes. How precious are they? He does not despise anyone, and His wisdom is vast. He does not preserve the life of the wicked, but gives justice to the afflicted. He always watches over the righteous; He seats them with kings on thrones, being lifted up forever.

God's will was originally to save us from the dust. If we have that kind of faith within us, He will seat us on His throne. Heavens! If anyone does not want such grace, I would say that they are the biggest fools in the world, not knowing how to enjoy the honour of royalty, not knowing that you and I are a royal priesthood.

So if there is a chance in the future, when you go out to evangelize, you must carry the image of a royal priest. I must tell everyone today that money is like joss paper, not really of much use. If we don't know that we will reign with the King, with God, we have done our Christian life in vain.

I think I am looking forward to the coming of that day. I don't know if I will attain it, but I will forget what is behind and strive towards what is ahead, running straight toward such goal, and receiving the reward from the hand of God. He exalts us not for just a day or two, and then takes us down. He wants to exalt you forever because you can live a victorious Christian life in this world. What a great grace this is! So I think that until we see the Lord, we will be able to fully understand what is written in the Bible.

But I feel especially great after reading these words. I was originally just a speck of dust, but God did not look down on me and even prepared the grace of a royal priesthood for me, allowing me to reign with Him in the future. If today we despise our office, valuing your work more than you value God, valuing money more than you value God, then there are indeed people among us, and I think that the theory of chicken leg bread might still have a market. But I want to tell you that the theory is not about chicken legs, it is about kingship.

God’s Power Transcends Our Rationality

Behold, God is great, and we know him not, the number of his years is unsearchable. (Job 36:26)

What is this section about? I tell you that God's power transcends our rationality. God is great, how great? We cannot fully know. So when we enter this spiritual world, begin to have a little knowledge and understanding of God, I tell you that what you understand is not even a drop of seawater.

If you are merely satisfied with this and give up on constantly pursuing the knowledge of God, what foolishness that is. If you gain a drop of water in the ocean of knowing God, it will already overwhelm you. If a person gains this little bit, and then begins to be satisfied with the status quo, I tell you that God sees this as foolish.

God is so great, completely beyond our imagination. Some people ask what we will do in heaven? I tell you that knowing God is an eternal matter. We can never confine the path of knowing God. That is to say, in the mystery of God, we only know a little bit. We only know a little bit of the mystery of knowing God. If we are a foolish person today, begin to put down the revelation of God, begin to no longer know God, and then think that the work you are doing is everything in your life, that is very foolish in the eyes of God.

You know that the work that God does is too miraculous, like rain, thunder, and lightning, and even some things as He uses the thunder of His voice to make known His works. I tell you that when a storm is coming, the animals know, but the people don't know. Don't you think that's strange? Don't think that people know more than animals. You know that recently rats have been running rampant in the streets of New York, and they say that New York has been controlled by rats.

You need to know that in the environment in which we live, if animals start to act a little strange, you need to know that something big is about to happen. You need to prepare well. So when God does these things, the animals know first and the people know later. People need to learn from the animals. Don't you think that's amazing? Actually, it's not about learning from the animals, it's about fearing God. God wants to humiliate people, to humiliate our scientists. I tell you that the animals know things before our scientists. Don't you think that's very strange?

In 1976, the Tangshan earthquake later recorded that on that day the animals in the whole city and countryside were very strange. For example, ducks that could not fly, flew onto the walls, and rats scurried everywhere. Very strange things happened, but people did not know what was about to happen. Then in the night, a great earthquake occurred, killing hundreds of thousands of people. People are too small. God is too great, completely beyond what you and I can imagine.

Today, I want to give everyone encouragement. I encourage everyone to learn to pursue the knowledge of God. Never let God one day declare to you: You shall never enter my rest., and then sever relationship with people. We have no way to enter God's presence again. Isn't the Israelites who died in the wilderness our lesson? Isn't the Israelites who died in the wilderness a lesson that we need to learn? Why do people still walk on this hard-hearted road today? I tell you, God's heart is about to break. God broke God’s own Son, Jesus Christ, for us, but people do not treasure that .

Today, a sister came to the church this morning. I listened to her testimony. I am very grateful. I said, God, you are so wonderful. You always exalt those honour you, you cause those honour you to receive honor. This sister of ours originally did not want to be a teacher after graduating from vocational school. She was afraid to stand on a platform. But today is a teacher. After she became a teacher, the company filmed her lessons and sent them as a sample to the headquarters to compete with all the other branches. May God grant her grace, enable her lessons to win awards, and become an extremely beautiful resume for her, allowing her to gain a highlight in her resume. I do not think this is our ability. What ability do we have? This is God's grace, this is God's favour.

Later, she shared with me about all the teachers who had worked with her, who had a peer review. Her peer review was the highest score. I told this sister not to think that that was our ability. That is God’s favor manifesting on us. Do you know why this is the case? One day, she started dedicating every Friday. Her company gives her Friday off. There is a prayer meeting every week, from 10:30 a.m. to afternoon, and she will come every week.

I think we have washing clothes, housework cleaning, buying, sorting house, these can be done, but she takes this time give it to be sanctified. You honor God, and God will honor you. In the past few years, I have been determined and resolute. Today I standing here as pastor, it’s not because of anything else, it’s because I really want to be a pastor. I really want to serve my God, because serving my God is my life. He is not optional.

In fact, when I was the CIO, I think I could have reason to treat my work as God. But I take serving God is my life. Although at first, I do not know how to build the church, but my motives never been wrong. I want to serve my God, because my God is the source of my life. I think so, you need to learn.

God Has Both Mercy and Discipline

Whether for correction, or for his land, or for kindness, he causes it to strike. (Job 37:13)

Elihu had a wonderful grace in his understanding of God, clearly describing both God's discipline and mercy. It's not about either being indifferent to discipline or loving to an extreme. He has both discipline and mercy, aiming to bring people to life. With both discipline and mercy, He can win some to enter His kingdom.

This is truly worth pondering. Some say God is love, loving indiscriminately. Others say God is severe, forgetting that He is a God of mercy. So today, we must have a correct understanding of God. I believe Elihu's words about God are endorsed by God. That's why God doesn't rebuke Elihu. His tone is completely different from the previous three friends.

Choose to Believe

Pay attention to this, Job; stop and consider God’s wonders. (Job 37:14)

God's wonders are beyond our comprehension. What lies behind this incomprehensibility? Actually, it's faith. Because we cannot fully know, we believe. Our belief simplifies God's complex mysteries because we choose to believe. When we choose the path of faith, we are righteous. God considers you righteous. How wonderful!

Job kept wanting to know what had happened. But God never told him about the wager with Satan. Job never knew. And Elihu, can you know these things? These mysteries belong to the Lord. As for God's love for us, we must also come forward in faith to receive God's mercy, isn't it?

If we know that God is merciful, that's enough. You can receive mercy through faith. The testimony I just shared with you is a testament to God's mercy. When I started my first real job, I worked for a year. You know what? My English was terrible. I didn't know if I could communicate correctly with others. Often, communication was like a chicken talking to a duck. But at the end of the year, they chose me as the advanced worker of the entire company, the best performance award.

I tell you, when I went on stage, I stammered when I had to say a few words. I knew it wasn't my ability because God chose me and gave me such favor. Later, step by step, God elevated me to the position of CIO. When I became the CIO, the people who won awards with me that day all became department leaders.

I think the more you want to know these phenomena, the better you should use the ability to understand these phenomena to know God. Knowing God is not difficult at all. What does the Bible say? If you seek to know God, knock and it will be opened to you, seek and you will find. Not seeking the knowledge of natural science, but seeking the path of life. How clouds float in the sky, let them float.

But how I can gain abundant life, that's what I seek. How I can know this God more. How to further experience this God. Experience more of His wonderful deeds. And gain more power from His throne, and in this world, become a vessel to manifest His glory. And become a blessing to all nations on earth, that's what we should pursue. What we pursue is not a physical phenomenon. Or a chemical phenomenon. Of course, pursuing this is left to scientists. But we Christians, we must become people who manifest God's glory. That is what Elihu said.

He Does Not Care for Those Who Think They Are Wise

The Almighty is beyond our reach and exalted in power; in his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. (Job 37:23)

How well said! Like the last sentence of Ecclesiastes. He does not care for those who think they are wise. Today, if you think you are great, you are the one God does not care for. If you feel that God is my God, this is the center of my life, I want to live a God-centered life.

I will fear Him all my life, so I will follow Him all my life. He is my way, my life, my everything. If you have such thoughts, like Elihu said, the Almighty is beyond our reach, He is great in power, fair and righteous, and will not oppress people, so people fear Him. That's the key.

You must fear God. If you do not fear God, what are these things you are pursuing? What's the use of you talking to me about this and that? Today I tell you an idea in my heart, maybe it will offend some people, but this is the true thought in my heart. Because in the past few days in the Taipei course, Pastor Zhou and his wife stood on the stage and began to tell our 120 full-time church pastors and co-workers again that building a church is like flying an airplane, and those who want to go to the kingdom of heaven come up. If you don't want to go to the kingdom of heaven, get off quickly. Because when he wants to get off halfway. You don't know whether to get off or not. Do you understand?

So today I saw a piece of news that said that a drunk man showed his love to the flight attendant. As a result, the plane could not fly to its destination and had to return and make an emergency landing. If there is a drunkard in the church with a bomb and we say we are going to fly to the kingdom of heaven. He said if you want to fly, I'll pull this rope. Then we will all perish together.

Do you want such a person to come up? You don't want it and neither do I. All of us who carry the same mission, maybe you don't know what the mission is, but you have a heart in your heart, you want to know God more, we will come with you to know God more. If you say you want to leave, I will never keep you. I will never keep anyone who wants to leave.

If you agree with my words, everyone has the same approval, then we will continue to walk this path. It's not that the pastor doesn't have love. If you are willing, I will definitely love you, I will definitely love you to the end. But if you pursue things in the world, then go, as for me and our brothers and sisters, we will definitely serve Jehovah, because serving God is our life! Amen!

Elihu Has Several Understandings of Job

Reject the Erroneous Idea That God Is Attacking Me

First, in chapter 33, verse 8, Elihu says, Surely I have heard you speaking, and I have heard the very words you uttered. What did Job say? “I am pure and without sin; I am clean and free from guilt. Yet God has found fault with me; he considers me his enemy; he fastens my feet in shackles; he keeps close watch on all my paths.” (Job 33:8-11). I ask you, are Elihu's words what Job said? If some of us recognize God in this way. You have taken Job's not-so-correct path.

Although Job said this during this process, what did he say later? I used to hear about God, but now I see God with my own eyes. This is not the result of not knowing God. At this time, Job did not actually know God. Job still likes to ask why this and why that. He wants to know a lot of things. At this time, Elihu did not take what Job said correctly to evaluate, Elihu took what Job said that was not very correct to say a little bit, so that we can understand where Job's problem lies.

It doesn't matter if we are pure and innocent, we don't have any sins. But we cannot say that God is looking for opportunities to attack me. God is looking for opportunities to attack you, God is playing with you. Is it fun? I don't think God would do such a thing. Attack us and play with us. Not fun at all. I think today we must learn one thing. What kind of thing should we learn? God will not attack us, nor will He use us as targets, nor will He use us as enemies. Although we don't know what is happening behind some of the things that happened to us.

Like the example of the pastor I just gave. We don't know what happened behind it. But thank God that God is still reigning over that pastor, isn't it reversed? After a very hard journey of seven years. But what does it matter? So if we feel pure and innocent, and then nothing will happen, that's not the case. God wants you to know Him even more. So today I will share an example with you.

Someone said, Lord, give me patience. Then another pastor asked, What are you asking for? Then he said, What am I asking for? He said, Tribulation produces perseverance; perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope. If you ask for patience, there will inevitably be tribulations. We may not understand such things, God's work is so wonderful.

But we must never say that God is attacking me. Such recognition is very problematic. You know, when a person gets cancer, people will comfort the patient and say, Thank God, God allowed this to happen, thank God, this is God giving it to you. You know, when the person with cancer hears this, they will have the thought that God is attacking me. Although we don't understand, even if it's Job's situation now, we don't understand. But inside us, have we begun to reject a wrong idea that God is attacking me?

God Is My Salvation

Let us choose for ourselves what is right; let us know among ourselves what is good. (Job 34:4)

Second, in chapter 34, verse 5, do you think Job is right? I think these problems that Elihu picked out are too insightful. He thought he was righteous. So such a thing is allowed to happen to me. God has taken away your right. Is it according to reason? It's not according to reason. Although I am right, I am still considered a liar. Although I am innocent, the pain I have suffered cannot be healed. In fact, I tell you, God is the God who heals us. If I have not been healed yet, but I believe that God will definitely heal me.

So start rejecting this wrong, negative lie. Is he lying? Don't think that you did those things in the past and then think you are righteous. You can't really talk about righteousness. When we know God later, if we rely on Job's idea that God took my reason, he will not be righteous. But he still thought he was righteous. Because what? Because he felt that what he did in the past was righteous. Although God does not pick on his reason. But that doesn't mean what Job said is right. But what Job said is actually problematic.

The problem that Elihu picked out accurately pointed out Job's problem. In fact, Elihu did not take out other problems to say. I think can we now say in reverse, God is my reason. God is my life. God is my truth. God is my way. Just affirm that God is my healing, God is my provider, God is my everything. God will never be vain, God will never do evil. God must be my salvation, forever, even though we experience some things.

But what does it matter? If this momentary and light suffering can achieve an incomparable glory. What's so great? With this attitude, despise all the difficulties we face, there is nothing great. All trample under their feet because God has prepared the best way for me Amen! This is Job's second.

Don't Be a Rebellious Israelite

“Job speaks out of ignorance; his words lack insight.” I wish Job were tested to the utmost because he answers like the wicked. To his sin he adds rebellion; scornfully he claps his hands among us and multiplies his words against God. (Job 34:35-37)

I tell you, if a person does not know God, he will say such things, instead of saying what Elihu said. Some of the things Job said are words of faith, we thank God; but some he is still entangled in some things. Today I encourage everyone, never be like the wicked. Elihu said a word, may Job be tested to the end. This is true. If God tests you and me, sells us into slavery in Egypt, puts us in prison as prisoners, if it is like Job, Joseph will sit on the bottom of the prison forever and will never come out, he will be tested to the end. Today you and I must learn to be victorious in God's trials.

The Israelites left Egypt and entered the wilderness and crossed the Red Sea. As a result, they tempted God ten times and took the path of unbelief. For example, there is no water in this place, so complain, why is there no water, we might as well die in Egypt.

If you have the heart to die, what are you afraid of if there is no water? This person is very strange, and then Moses prayed to God, and God gave them water, and you can learn a lesson when he gives them water? Should have learned a lesson, right? This place can have water, my God is so wonderful. What will you do next time you encounter no water? You will say that our three million Israelis will pray together, and our God will definitely give us water. Then you also get water.

Three million Israelis, from large to small, complained there, we might as well die in Egypt. God gave them water again, but they still didn't learn a lesson. The third time there was no water again, and the water was still bitter. Never learn a lesson, never learn a lesson, and as a result, God gave them this water lesson three times and then judged them a volume, failed! Then give another one, also failed. In the end, they died in the wilderness.

Today, in God's test, if God tests us, we must not answer God like the wicked, then we will be tested to the end. What does it mean to be tested to the end? It is to die in the wilderness. Do you want to die in the wilderness or be victorious? It is so good to be victorious and enter the promised land. Do you understand? It is such a wonderful thing to obtain a promise. If you don't want it, I want it, I definitely want it. I think, no matter what kind of situation I encounter, I must be strong and courageous, and hold on to my faith. Never be frivolous about God, never say evil words to God, and then add rebellion to sin, this is not a good person.

God Makes Those Who Love Him Benefit

What profit is it to me?” or “What do I gain if I turn from my sin? (Job 35:3)

How did Job's fourth say it? He still doesn't understand how there can be no benefit in this victory. What profit is it to me? He likes to walk peacefully in the world. But I tell you, the road God has prepared for us. Is what a rich grace. Even if you encounter some trials and tests, what does it matter, they are all beneficial to us. Look at what the Bible says, all things work together for good to those who love God.

But when it comes to Job, it becomes what profit is it to me? If something is going to happen, start thanking God, this is my benefit. This is what God wants. Let all things work together for good, so that I can benefit. What good is it for me not to sin than to sin? Even the distinction between having committed sin and not having committed sin is blurred. Are you saying you want to lose your life?

Do Not Speak Vain Words, Speak Words Without Knowledge

So Job speaks to no purpose; his words lack knowledge.” (Job 35:16)

So Job speaks vain words and utters many words without knowledge. If everyone consults the Bible, don't quote those vain words as truth. Don't quote if you don't understand. It's better to quote what God said.

Speak vain words and utter many words without knowledge. If a person does not know God, he often speaks ignorant words. In serving brothers and sisters, I just feel embarrassed to say that after listening, I can only say where this is in the Bible. If this is not in the Bible, it is probably ignorance. Why do people have to take this ignorant road? If you take that ignorant road. Don't wake up and stubbornly continue to run that ignorant road. May God have mercy.

Don't think that Job speaking these vain words is not a problem. It's just because God is letting him experience such things, God is just having mercy on him. Speaking vain words in such a situation, God also said, Forget it, I have suffered so much, so just complain.

But have you and I re-recognized that I don't think there is any more record of Job's story later, but God doubled his blessing on Job. What would he do if Job experienced the same thing again later, not necessarily exactly the same story, but he may experience another round of trials in his life.

But if he is someone who used to hear about God and now sees God with his own eyes and knows God, I think these words of Elihu, the words of God, will be deeply imprinted in his mind. He will no longer speak vain words. A person who does not know God is a very sad thing. These are the five aspects of Job's problems pointed out by Elihu.

Scripture:

Job 32:1 So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes.
Job 32:2 Then Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the family of Ram, was angry with Job. He was angry because Job justified himself rather than God.
Job 32:3 He was also angry with Job's three friends, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job.
Job 32:4 Now Elihu had waited to speak to Job because they were older than he.
Job 32:5 But when Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouths of these three men, he became angry.
Job 32:6 So Elihu the Buzite, the son of Barachel, answered and said: “I am young in years, and you are very old; therefore I was timid and afraid to declare my opinion to you.
Job 32:7 I said, ‘Let days speak, and many years teach wisdom.’
Job 32:8 But it is the spirit in a person, the breath of the Almighty, that gives them understanding.
Job 32:9 It is not only the old who are wise, not only the aged who understand what is right.
Job 32:10 Therefore I say, ‘Listen to me; I too will declare my opinion.’
Job 32:11 Behold, I waited for your words, I listened for your wise sayings, while you searched out what to say.
Job 32:12 I gave you my attention, and behold, there was none among you who refuted Job or answered his words.
Job 32:13 Beware lest you say, ‘We have found wisdom; God will vanquish him, not a man.’
Job 32:14 He has not directed his words against me, and I will not answer him with your words.
Job 32:15 They are dismayed; they answer no more; they have nothing to say.
Job 32:16 Shall I wait, because they do not speak, because they stand there, and answer no more?
Job 32:17 I also will answer with my share; I too will declare my opinion.
Job 32:18 For I am full of words; the spirit within me constrains me.
Job 32:19 Behold, my belly is like wine that has no vent; like new wineskins ready to burst.
Job 32:20 I must speak, that I may find relief; I must open my lips and answer.
Job 32:21 I will not show partiality to any man or use flattery toward anyone.
Job 32:22 For I do not know how to flatter, else my Maker would soon take me away.
Job 33:1 “But now, Job, hear my speech and listen to all my words.
Job 33:2 Behold, I open my mouth; the tongue in my mouth speaks.
Job 33:3 My words declare the uprightness of my heart, and what my lips know they speak sincerely.
Job 33:4 The Spirit of God has made me, and the breath of the Almighty gives me life.
Job 33:5 If you can answer me, set your words in order before me, and stand forth.
Job 33:6 Behold, I am toward God as you are; I too was pinched off from a piece of clay.
Job 33:7 Behold, no fear of me need terrify you; my weight will not be heavy upon you.
Job 33:8 “Surely, you have spoken in my hearing, and I have heard the sound of your words.
Job 33:9 You say, ‘I am pure, without transgression; I am clean and there is no iniquity in me.
Job 33:10 Behold, he finds occasions against me and counts me as his enemy.
Job 33:11 He puts my feet in the stocks and watches all my paths.’
Job 33:12 “Behold, in this you are not right. I will answer you, for God is greater than man.
Job 33:13 Why do you contend against him, saying, ‘He will answer none of my words’?
Job 33:14 For God speaks in one way, and in two, though man does not perceive it.
Job 33:15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men, while they slumber on their beds,
Job 33:16 then he opens the ears of men and terrifies them with warnings,
Job 33:17 that he may turn man aside from his deed and conceal pride from him;
Job 33:18 he keeps back his soul from the pit, his life from perishing by the sword.
Job 33:19 “Man is also rebuked with pain on his bed and with continual strife in his bones,
Job 33:20 so that his life loathes bread, and his appetite loathes rich food.
Job 33:21 His flesh is so wasted away that it cannot be seen, and his bones that were not seen stick out.
Job 33:22 His soul draws near the pit, and his life to those who bring death.
Job 33:23 If there be for him an angel, a mediator, one of the thousand, to declare to man what is right for him,
Job 33:24 and he is gracious to him and says, ‘Deliver him from going down into the pit; I have found a ransom.’
Job 33:25 Let his flesh become fresh with youth; let him return to the days of his youthful vigor.
Job 33:26 Then man prays to God, and he accepts him; he sees his face with a shout of joy, and he restores to man his righteousness.
Job 33:27 He sings before men and says: ‘I sinned and perverted what was right, and it was not repaid to me.
Job 33:28 He has redeemed my soul from going down into the pit, and my life shall look upon the light.’
Job 33:29 “Behold, God does all these things, twice, three times, with a man,
Job 33:30 to bring back his soul from the pit, that he may be lighted with the light of life.
Job 33:31 Pay attention, O Job, listen to me; be silent, and I will speak.
Job 33:32 If you have any words, answer me; speak, for I desire to justify you.
Job 33:33 If not, listen to me; be silent, and I will teach you wisdom.”
Job 34:1 Then Elihu said:
Job 34:2 “Hear my words, you wise men, and give ear to me, you who know;
Job 34:3 for the ear tests words as the palate tastes food.
Job 34:4 Let us choose what is right; let us know among ourselves what is good.
Job 34:5 For Job has said, ‘I am in the right, and God has taken away my right;
Job 34:6 in spite of my right I am counted a liar; my wound is incurable, though I am without transgression.’
Job 34:7 What man is like Job, who drinks up scoffing like water,
Job 34:8 who goes in company with evildoers and walks with wicked men?
Job 34:9 For he has said, ‘It profits a man nothing that he should take delight in God.’
Job 34:10 “Therefore, hear me, you men of understanding: far be it from God to do wickedness, and from the Almighty to do wrong.
Job 34:11 For according to the work of a man he will repay him, and according to his ways he will make it befall him.
Job 34:12 Of a truth, God will not do wickedly, and the Almighty will not pervert justice.
Job 34:13 Who gave him charge over the earth? And who laid on him the whole world?
Job 34:14 If he should set his heart to do this, gather to himself his spirit and his breath,
Job 34:15 all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.
Job 34:16 “If you have understanding, hear this; listen to the sound of my words.
Job 34:17 Shall one who hates justice govern? Will you condemn the righteous mighty One,
Job 34:18 who says to a king, ‘Worthless one,’ and to nobles, ‘Wicked men,’
Job 34:19 who shows no partiality to princes, nor regards the rich more than the poor, for they are all the work of his hands?
Job 34:20 In a moment they die; at midnight the people are shaken and pass away, and the mighty are taken away by no human hand.
Job 34:21 “For his eyes are on the ways of a man, and he sees all his steps.
Job 34:22 There is no gloom or deep darkness where evildoers may hide themselves.
Job 34:23 For God has no need to consider a man further, that he should go before God in judgment.
Job 34:24 He shatters the mighty without investigation and sets others in their place.
Job 34:25 For he knows their works; he overturns them in the night, and they are crushed.
Job 34:26 As wicked men he strikes them in a public place,
Job 34:27 because they turned aside from following him and had no regard for any of his ways,
Job 34:28 so that they caused the cry of the poor to come to him, and he heard the cry of the afflicted—
Job 34:29 When he is quiet, who can condemn? When he hides his face, who can behold him, whether it be a nation or a man?—
Job 34:30 that the godless man should not reign, that he should not ensnare the people.
Job 34:31 “For has anyone said to God, ‘I have borne punishment, though I have done no wrong;
Job 34:32 teach me what I do not see; if I have done iniquity, I will do it no more’?
Job 34:33 Must it be according to your judgment? Because you refuse to accept it, must I choose for you? Declare what you know.
Job 34:34 Men of understanding will say to me, and the wise man who hears me will say:
Job 34:35 ‘Job speaks without knowledge; his words are not in insight.’
Job 34:36 Would that Job were tried to the end, because he answers like wicked men.
Job 34:37 For he adds rebellion to his sin; he claps his hands in our midst and multiplies his words against God.”
Job 35:1 And Elihu said:
Job 35:2 “Do you think this to be just? Do you say, ‘I am more in the right than God’?
Job 35:3 For you say, ‘What advantage will it be to me? How am I better off than if I had sinned?’
Job 35:4 I will answer you and your friends with you.
Job 35:5 Look at the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds, which are higher than you.
Job 35:6 If you have sinned, what do you accomplish against him? And if your transgressions are multiplied, what do you do to him?
Job 35:7 If you are righteous, what do you give to him? Or what does he receive from your hand?
Job 35:8 Your wickedness concerns a man like yourself, and your righteousness a son of man.
Job 35:9 “Because of the multitude of oppressions people cry out; they call for help because of the arm of the mighty.
Job 35:10 But none says, ‘Where is God my Maker, who gives songs in the night,
Job 35:11 who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds of the heavens?’
Job 35:12 There they cry out, but he does not answer, because of the pride of evil men.
Job 35:13 Surely God will not hear an empty cry, nor will the Almighty regard it.
Job 35:14 How much less when you say that you do not see him, that the case is before him, and you are waiting for him.
Job 35:15 And now, because his anger does not punish, and he does not fully recognize transgression,
Job 35:16 Job opens his mouth in empty talk; he multiplies words without knowledge.”
Job 36:1 And Elihu continued and said:
Job 36:2 “Bear with me a little, and I will show you, for I have yet something to say on God's behalf.
Job 36:3 I will get my knowledge from afar and ascribe righteousness to my Maker.
Job 36:4 For truly my words are not false; one who is perfect in knowledge is with you.
Job 36:5 “Behold, God is mighty, and does not despise any; he is mighty in strength of understanding.
Job 36:6 He does not keep the wicked alive, but gives the afflicted their right.
Job 36:7 He does not withdraw his eyes from the righteous, but with kings on the throne he sets them forever, and they are exalted.
Job 36:8 And if they are bound in chains and caught in the cords of affliction,
Job 36:9 then he declares to them their work and their transgressions, that they were behaving arrogantly.
Job 36:10 He opens their ears to instruction and commands that they return from iniquity.
Job 36:11 If they listen and serve him, they complete their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasantness.
Job 36:12 But if they do not listen, they perish by the sword and die without knowledge.
Job 36:13 “The godless in heart cherish anger; they do not cry for help when he binds them.
Job 36:14 They die in youth, and their life ends among the cult prostitutes.
Job 36:15 He delivers the afflicted by their affliction and opens their ear by adversity.
Job 36:16 He also allured you out of distress into a broad place where there was no cramping, and what was set on your table was full of fatness.
Job 36:17 “But you are full of the judgment on the wicked; judgment and justice seize you.
Job 36:18 Beware lest wrath entice you into scoffing, and let not the greatness of the ransom turn you aside.
Job 36:19 Will your cry avail to keep you from distress, or all the force of your strength?
Job 36:20 Do not long for the night, when peoples vanish in their place.
Job 36:21 Take care, do not turn to iniquity, for this you have chosen rather than affliction.
Job 36:22 Behold, God is exalted in his power; who is a teacher like him?
Job 36:23 Who has prescribed for him his way, or who can say, ‘You have done wrong’?
Job 36:24 “Remember to exalt his work, of which men have sung.
Job 36:25 All mankind has looked upon it; man beholds it from afar.
Job 36:26 Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.
Job 36:27 For he draws up the drops of water; they distill his mist in rain,
Job 36:28 which the skies pour down and drop on mankind abundantly.
Job 36:29 Can anyone understand the spreading of the clouds, the thunder of his pavilion?
Job 36:30 Behold, he scatters his lightning about him and covers the bottom of the sea.
Job 36:31 For by these he judges peoples; he gives food in abundance.
Job 36:32 He covers his hands with lightning and commands it to strike the mark.
Job 36:33 Its crashing declares his presence; the cattle also declare that he rises.
Job 37:1 “At this also my heart trembles and leaps out of its place.
Job 37:2 Keep listening to the thunder of his voice and the rumbling that comes from his mouth.
Job 37:3 Under the whole heaven he lets it go, and his lightning to the corners of the earth.
Job 37:4 After it his voice roars; he thunders with his majestic voice and does not restrain the lightnings when his voice is heard.
Job 37:5 God thunders wondrously with his voice; he does great things that we cannot comprehend.
Job 37:6 For to the snow he says, ‘Fall on the earth,’ and to the shower and the downpour of his might,
Job 37:7 ‘Be stopped, that all mankind may know his work.’
Job 37:8 Then the beasts go into their lairs and remain in their dens.
Job 37:9 From its chamber comes the whirlwind, and cold from the scattering winds.
Job 37:10 By the breath of God ice is given, and the broad waters are frozen fast.
Job 37:11 He loads the thick cloud with moisture; the cloud scatters his lightning.
Job 37:12 It turns around and around by his guidance, to accomplish all that he commands it on the face of the habitable world.
Job 37:13 Whether for correction or for his land or for love, he causes it to happen.
Job 37:14 “Hear this, O Job; stop and consider the wondrous works of God.
Job 37:15 Do you know how God lays his command upon them and causes the lightning of his cloud to shine?
Job 37:16 Do you know the balancing of the clouds, the wondrous works of him who is perfect in knowledge,
Job 37:17 you whose garments are hot when the earth is still because of the south wind?
Job 37:18 Can you, like him, spread out the skies, hard as a cast metal mirror?
Job 37:19 Teach us what we shall say to him; we cannot draw up our case because of darkness.
Job 37:20 Shall it be told him that I would speak? Has a man wished that he would be swallowed up?
Job 37:21 “And now no one looks on the light when it is bright in the skies, but the wind has passed and cleared them.
Job 37:22 Out of the north comes golden splendor; God is clothed with awesome majesty.
Job 37:23 The Almighty—we cannot find him; he is great in power; justice and abundant righteousness he will not violate.
Job 37:24 Therefore men fear him. He does not regard any who are wise of heart.”

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以利户在说这些话的时候,神就在他们最沉醉的时候,用异像开通他们的耳朵,在他的梦里告诉他,将当受的教训印在他们身上,好叫他们不从自己的谋算。不行骄傲的事,拦阻人不陷于坑里、不死在刀下。(《约伯记》33:16-18) 在旧约《圣经》里,神不希望老以利被判死刑的,一次又一次的警告他,叫他回转向神。神也一次又一次的警告扫罗,但是他们都是不肯回转。都行在自己的谋算当中。 今天我们教会里,仍然有很多人愿意行在自己的谋算当中。他跟我说了很多,但我听了没有一句是《圣经》上的话,都是自己的谋算,你要往坑里跳。神也不拦你,但是选择在你和我。这是以利户对神的第一个认识。

神接二连三地向人行这事,为要从深坑就回人的灵魂,使他被光照耀与活人一样。今天我们一定要知道,**神是救赎我们的神**。神要救赎我们脱离深坑,他无限次的向人行这样的事。 **一个罪人,不管他在什么时候回转向神,神都重新接纳**,虽然《圣经》里头讲了狠话:如果是这样的人,就没有重新懊悔的机会啦。其实讲得是很狠的。但是我想,只要这个人重新真正的懊悔回转向神,神仍然接纳他。因为神拯救人。 所以我们仔细的思考,我们把神的救赎当作一块抹布还是至宝。你和我本来是毫无盼望的人,什么盼望都没有,活着活着就死了。在世上所夸口的不过是劳苦愁烦,没得癌症的还感谢神,但是不管是什么样的疾病都够受啊! 这世上我们能夸口的是什么呢?你真的知道你的未来吗?明天是否能够见到早起的太阳都不知道,你夸耀的是什么呢?还谋算什么呢?几时生死你说的都不算,你说的算什么呢?紧紧抓住你的工作做什么呢?有的人说:牧师不理解我。你说我能理解你吗?我告诉你神也不理解你。是你自己也不理解你自己。

今天我跟大家说一句掏心的话,工作不能救你脱离阴间,所以有人跟我说了一些事情的时候,我告诉他:灵界的真实你知道吗?他说我知道。那为什么还说这些鬼话呢?我们当中对灵界一点儿也不认识的人不多,多多少少都看见灵界的真实对不对?不要以为没有这些事情。 上个礼拜天来到我们当中的一对夫妻,那个男的打电话给我,他的岳母肝癌还剩两个月的生命,最近他的岳母常常看见牛头马面,原来我们中国人所说的牛头马面不是假的。 你知道吗?那就是死亡的灵,他问我为什么我的岳母老是看到牛头马面,我该怎么办?地狱的灵来抓你的岳母来了,怎么办?打仗就把这死亡的灵击退。但是人在这世上,**神已经胜过阴间地狱死亡的灵,把这权柄放在你手中**,我们是否去真的珍惜这样的权柄来使用呢? 在我们当中,我相信你一定会知道,这权柄是多么宝贵,我很感慨,一个人经历了神,但是却不把他当作至宝,常常羞辱神。如果我活在今天这个世代,在我年轻的时候我能够回到国内,能够有机会继续持守聚会,我告诉你我一个都不会错过。 养成这样的性格不好吗?真的认识神,神的救赎,救我们脱离阴间地狱死亡,从深坑里从地狱里救回人的灵魂,然后使人被光照耀成为一个有灵的活人,这是何等宝贵的事情!但是很多人不看重。我想以利户讲的话太好了。

我们在读《创世记》的时候,常常有一些不信主的人来到我们当中查《圣经》。神太狠了,怎么就这么把所多玛给灭了。我听了他的话,我说:朋友,如果你和我是审判官,你会怎么审判?他让我告诉他这个地方怎么了。 我说,有两个地方,任何一个经过这地的人,从1岁到70岁,进来的人只要路过这个地方的人就被强奸。而且全城的男女老少都来干这件事儿,直到把这个人弄死。我问你,如果那个人就是你的家人,你会怎么审判这个城市?他说:要定他们死罪! 今天如果我们在网上听到一些国家,经常轮奸小孩,你会觉得很难接受是不是?如果你是个接受的人,你还有点儿公义和良心吗?神怎么说?就算是在这个地方,有五十个、四十个、三十个好人,我都不为这些好人灭绝这个城市。**神断不至作恶**。 今天我们看见一些事情不明白就说不明白,不要论断神。我们以为论断神是可以得赦免的,其实是不能够得赦免的,因为我们不认识神,神竟然把他的独生儿子赐给我们,岂不是把万物都赐给了我们?我们竟然不把他当作是宝贵的。

神在天上,看到人陷在罪恶当中,神的灵不得安息。神极其得难过,在诺亚的那个年代,神说我后悔造人在地上。你知道神当时里面的那种感受是多么受伤吗? 今天我们当中也有一些弟兄姐妹,其实我想如果大家真的了解你们的牧师,你的牧师在你身上所付出的我不想计较,因为那都是从神而来,但如果把我所付出的,在你们身上当作一个辖制、当作一个败坏,其实我心里头还是有伤痛的,只是我治愈能力比较快,我也不太在乎。 我这一次回台北,我一而再再而三的推脱,我说我到了机场我就搭一个出租车去聚会场就好了,不用麻烦,但是他们死活都要派车来接我。我自己很惊讶,我回新加坡的时候,我说我自己搭车就好,但是一位牧师一定要用车送我,亲自送我回机场,我非常的感恩,我不会把这样的爱,当作一种辖制,反倒当作一种激励。我会继续在新加坡这个地方来彰显神的荣耀,传承灵粮堂的命定,以为这是神在我身上的命定。

**我要回答你和在你这里的朋友。你要向天观看,瞻望那高于你的穹苍。你若犯罪,能使神受何害呢?你的过犯加增,能使神受何损呢?你若是公义,还能加增他什么呢?他从你手里还接受什么呢?你的过恶或能害你这类的人;你的公义或能叫世人得益处。(《约伯记》35:4-8)** 这一部分讲的是以利户对神的认识:你行公义神那里也不会多什么;你陷在罪里,神也不会缺少什么。神不会因为你做了什么,神是自有永有的神,他是不缺乏任何东西的神,我们千万不要把自己看得过重。我们带着一颗感恩的心说:神我们感谢你,救我脱离一切的黑暗,我来到你面前,我不能给你加添什么,但是我知道你爱我,你巴不得我能够回转向你,在你面前得好处。 你仔细的想一想,你就会知道,地球在宇宙当中像一粒尘埃。地上的人是地上的一粒尘埃。神拥有宇宙万有。我们在他面前是蒙受何等的恩典。只不过是因他爱我们,希望我们得救而已。至于我们选择什么,千万不要高看自己。神那里不多也不少。 以利户对神的认识:至于这天上多了一个约伯或者少了一个约伯有什么了不起的事情呢?只是**神巴不得因着我们得荣耀,他巴不得跟我们分享他的荣耀,让我们得益处**。所以保罗在写保罗书信的时候,他说我要更多的人同得这福音的好处。如果你带着一个目的进前来,那就是要到神面前得好处。我告诉你那是正确的想法。不是说,神我能为你做些什么,当然你有这样的心很好,因为神已经在你身上做了一切。

今天你一定要知道。**你和我在神面前是他手里的作品。但是我们愿不愿意让神来雕琢我们,使我们成为彰显他荣耀的器皿?还是任由我们自己的性子去做我们自己,然后成为魔鬼彰显黑暗权势的器皿**? 所以今天,我巴不得我们的弟兄姐妹都知道。**我们是需要神的,不是神需要我们**,神只是因为爱我们不希望我们灭亡。我们灭亡神那里他是很辛苦的,因为他很爱我们。 看见他所造的人,进到地狱里面,那可不是开玩笑的。今天如果我们中间有人,进入地狱里走了一圈,他绝对不会再想去那个地方,死活他都会奔跑这天路的。如果你不知道这问题的严重性,还以为能给神点什么,好像要给神点面子来信靠他,那你就想错了。神有我们不多,没有我们也不少。因为他自己是自有永有的神,他自己就是一个丰盛的神。他丰盛到一个地步,他很想把他的丰盛给我们。这是以利户对神的认识。

**神有大能,并不藐视人;他的智慧甚广。(《约伯记》36:5)** 你知道我们的神多好吗?神有大能,我们像一粒尘土他竟然不藐视我们。你知道这是何等的尊荣?神非常尊重你和我,他完全有全能剥夺你所有的自由意志,但是他却尊重你,从来不藐视人。他看我们当作宝贝。 所以在新约《圣经》有一段是这样的:天国好比一个人,寻找宝贝,然后发现那个宝贝,然后他就把那个宝贝埋在地里,然后变卖自己所有的,买了这块地。为了得他地里那块宝贝。然后很多人以为埋宝贝的是我们,其实后来我仔细琢磨,原来,埋宝贝的是神。 他不顾一切的要把地里的这块宝贝买来,原来你和我就是那块宝贝。你要知道有信心的人在神的眼里看为至宝。他宝贵到什么程度呢?他并不藐视人,他的智慧甚广,他不保护恶人的性命,却为困苦人伸冤。他时常看顾义人,这义人使他们和君王同坐宝座永远被高举。

神的旨意原来是要把我们从尘土当中拯救出来。如果我们里面有那样的信心,他会使我们坐在他的宝座上。天啊!如果有人不要这样的恩典,我就会说这是天底下最大的傻瓜蛋,不知道享受君王的尊荣,不知道你和我是君尊的祭司。 所以如果将来有机会,你们可以出去,传福音的时候,一定带着君尊的祭司的形象。我今天一定要告诉大家。钱跟冥纸一样,真的没有什么太大的用处,如果不知道我们会跟王,跟神同坐王,做基督徒就白做了。 **我想我盼望着那天的来到,我不知道我会不会得着,但是我会忘记背后努力面前,向着这样的标杆直跑,再从神的手里得奖赏**。他高举我们不是一天两天,有一天给你拿下来。他要因为你在世上能够过一个得胜的基督徒的生命,将来把你高举直到永远,你想这是何等恩典,所以我想我们今天,直到见主面,才能够完全明白《圣经》里写的是什么。 但是我觉得读了这些话,特别爽。**我本来就是一介尘土,但是神竟不轻看我,还为我预备君尊祭司的恩典,让我能够将来跟他同坐王。**如果今天我们轻看了我们的职分,看重你的工作超过看重神,看重钱超过看重神,那我们当中的确有人啊,我想这个鸡腿窝头的理论,可能还有市场的。但是我想告诉你的理论不是鸡腿那是君王。

**神为大,我们不能全知;他的年数不能测度。(《约伯记》36:26)** 这一段在讲什么?我告诉你神的大能是超越我们理性的。神为大,有多大?我们不能够全知。所以当我们进入这个属灵的世界,开始对神有一点点的认识了解,我告诉你,你所了解的,连海水之一滴都不如。 如果你仅仅满足于此,就放弃不断去追求认识神,是何等的愚昧。如果在认识神的海洋里面的一滴水你得着了,已经让你无处可容。如果说人得着了这一点点,就开始满足于现状,我告诉你,这在神的眼中是看作愚昧的。 神何等的伟大,完全超过我们的想象,有的人说我们到天上干什么?我告诉你认识神是永远的事情。我们永远都不能够囚禁认识神的路。也就是说在神的奇妙的里面,我们仅仅知道了一点点,认识神的奇妙仅仅知道了一点点。如果说我们今天,是一个愚昧的人。开始放下神的启示,开始不再认识神,就以为你做的那份工当作你生命的一切。在神的眼中是非常的愚昧的。

你知道神做的工作太奇妙了,像雨水、雷电这些东西,甚至有一些东西,他要用他所发的雷声显明他的作为。我告诉你暴风来临的时候,动物都知道,但是人不知道。你不觉得奇怪吗?你不要以为人知道的比动物知道的多,你知道在最近在这个纽约大街上老鼠成行,他们说夸张一点纽约已经被老鼠掌控了。 你要知道我们生存的环境,如果动物开始有点儿怪异,你一定要知道有大事发生。你要好好预备,所以神在做这些事情的时候,动物先知道人后知道,人要跟动物学习,你不觉得奇妙吗?其实不是跟动物学习,是要敬畏神。神要羞辱人呀,羞辱我们的科学家们呀。我告诉你,动物都比我们的科学家先知道事儿。你不觉着很奇怪吗? 1976年唐山大地震,后来记载,那一天整个城里乡间的动物全都很诡异,比如说本来不能飞的鸭子飞到了墙上去,老鼠成群到处乱窜,很奇怪的事情都发生了,但是人们不知道要发生什么事情。然后夜里就发生了大地震,死了几十万人。人太渺小,神太伟大,完完全全超过你和我所能想象的。

我今天给大家一个鼓励。鼓励大家学习追求认识神。千万不要让神有一天向你宣判:你们断不可以进入我的安息,然后就跟人断绝关系。我们没有办法再进入神的面前。死在旷野的以色列人不是我们的借鉴吗?死在旷野的以色列人不是我们需要学习的功课吗?为什么今天还要走这硬着心的路呢?我告诉你神的心都要碎了。神为我们破碎自己的儿子耶稣基督,但是人竟然不当做宝贵。 今天有一个姐妹早晨来到教会,我听了她的见证。我很感恩,我说神你太奇妙了。常常高举尊荣你的人,你使尊荣你的人得着尊荣,我们这个姐妹本来学校专科毕业以后就不想做老师,害怕站讲台。但是今天做了一名老师。那她做了老师以后,公司把她的讲课拍下来作为一个样本,送到总部跟其他所有的分行去竞赛,但愿神使她得着恩宠,使她所讲的课能够得着奖利,成为她极其美好的履历,在她的履历表头可以得着一个亮点。我想这不是我们的能力,我们有什么能力?这是神的恩典,这是神的恩宠。 后来她还跟我分享,所有跟她配合过的老师,有一个队友互评。那她的队友互评里面是最高分的。我就跟这个姐妹讲千万不要以为那是我们的能力。那是神在我们身上,彰显他的恩宠。你知道为什么会是这样吗?有一天,她就开始每个礼拜五,她公司给她的假期是拜五。那拜五早上10点半到下午我们有一个祷告会,有祷告会她就会来。 我想我们会有洗衣服打扫卫生买东西整理家务这些琐事我们都可以做,但是她把这个时间拿出来分别为圣。你尊荣神,神就尊荣你。我在过去这些年,我告诉你,我是横下一条心,今天我站在这里作牧师,不是因为别的,而是因为我很想做牧师。我很想服侍我的神,因为服侍我的神是我的生命。他不是可有可无的。 那其实我在做到CIO(信息部总监)的时候,我想我可以有理由把我的工作当作神。但是我把服侍神当作我的生命。虽然起初我不知道如何建立教会,但是我的动机从来都没有错过。我要服侍我的神,因为我的神是我的生命的源泉。我想这样的话,需要配得你们去揣摩。

**或为责罚,或为润地,或为施行慈爱。(《约伯记》37:13)** 以利户对神的认识有一个奇妙的恩典,他把神责罚和慈爱,都清楚的描述出来。绝对不是说要么责罚什么也不在乎,也不是要么慈爱爱到不得了。他是有责罚有慈爱,不管怎么样,他都是要人得生命,又责罚又慈爱,这样总能够得着一些人进到他的国度里。 这实在值得我们去思考,那人有的时候说神是爱,已经爱到不分青红皂白了。那有的人说神严厉,已经忘了神是施慈爱的神。所以今天我们要对神有一个正确的认识。我想以利户对神的认识这些话语,是神所默认的。这就是为什么神不责备以利户。他所说的这些话,跟前面的三个朋友是完全不同的格调。

**约伯啊,你要留心听,要站立思想神奇妙的作为。(《约伯记》37:14)** 神的奇妙是我们所不能知道的,这不能知道的背后是什么?其实是信心,因为我们不能够完全知道,所以我们相信。我们相信就把这个神复杂的奥秘一下子都简单化了,因为我们选择相信。**当我们选择走信心的路时,我们就是义人。神就以你为义。**太奇妙了! 约伯一直想知道。到底发生了什么事儿。其实神到底也没有告诉他,是神跟撒旦打赌。到底约伯也没知道。然后这个以利户,你能知道这些吗?这些奥秘是属于耶和华的。至于神对于我们施行爱,我们也必须凭着信心进前来领受神的慈爱,不是吗?

那如果说是我们知道神是慈爱,就够了。你凭着信心就能够领受到慈爱。我刚才跟大家讲的这个见证不就是见证神的慈爱吗?那我在进到第一份正经工作的时候,我干了一年,那一年下来你知道吗?我的英文很烂。我不知道自己的英文能不能跟别人正确的沟通。很多时候沟通就是鸡同鸭讲。但是到了年底的时候他们把我选为整个公司的先进工作者,最佳表现奖。 我告诉你我上台的时候,让我讲几句话,我都是磕磕绊绊的。我知道这不是我的本事因为神拣选我,给我这样的恩宠,那后来我一步一步,神抬举我做到CIO的位置。那做到CIO的位置的时候,跟我那一天一同得奖的那个人都去做了部门的领导。 我想你越是想知道这些现象,你不如把这些想知道这些现象的能力拿来认识神,认识神一点也不难。《圣经》怎么说?你要想寻求认识神,你叩门的就给你开门,寻找就寻见。不是寻求这些自然科学的知识,是寻求那生命的道路。云彩如何浮在空中,就浮在空中吧。 但是我如何得着丰盛的生命,那是我所寻求的。我如何的更加的来认识这位神。如何更多的经历这位神。更多的经历他的奇妙作为。然后更多的得着他从宝座来的能力,然后在这世上,成为彰显他荣耀的器皿。然后成为地上万国万邦的祝福,才是我们要追求的。我们追求的不是一个物理现象。或者一个化学现象。当然追求这是是留给科学家去追求的。但是我们这些基督徒们,我们要成为彰显神荣耀器皿的人。这就是以利户所说的话。

**论到全能者,我们不能测度;他大有能力,有公平和大义,必不苦待人。(《约伯记》37:23)** 讲得多好啊这话。跟《传道书》的最后一句话一样。凡自以为心中有智慧的人他都不顾念。今天如果你觉得你自己了不起,你就是神所不顾念的人。如果你觉着神是我的神,这是我生命的中心,我要过以神为中心的生活。 我一生都要敬畏他,所以我一生都要跟随他。他就是我的道路,我的生,就是我的一切。如果你有这样的想法就跟以利户说,论道全能者我们不能测度,他大有能力有公平有大义必不苦待人,所以人敬畏他。这就是关键。 你要敬畏神,如果你不敬畏神,你所追求的这些东西是什么东西呢?你跟我讲东讲西的这些东西有什么用?我今天告诉大家,我心里的一个想法,也许会冒犯一些人,但是这是我心里的真实想法。因为在这几天台北的课程里面,周牧师周师母站在台上,又开始跟我们120个全职的教会传道牧师同工又开始说,建造教会就像开飞机,我们要去到天国的都上来。不要去天国的赶紧下去。因为到了半路他要下的时候。你不知道是要下还是不下。听明白了吗?

所以我今天看到一个新闻,他说有一个醉汉,像这个空姐示爱。结果飞机没有办法飞到目的地又折返迫降。教会里头如果有一个醉汉,身上带着炸弹然后我们说要飞到天国去。他说你要飞我就拉这跟绳。然后我们就同归于尽。 你要不要这样的人上?你不要我也不要。凡是我们带着同样使命的人,可能你不知道使命是什么,但是你心里头有一颗心,你要来更多的认识神,我们就跟你来一起更多的认识神。如果你说你要离开,我绝对不挽留。有人要离开我绝不挽留。 你认同我的话,大家有同样的认同,我们就继续走这条路。不是牧师没有爱心,你如果愿意的话,我一定会爱的,一定会爱到底。但是如果你追求世界上的东西,就去吧,至于我和我们的弟兄姐妹,我们必定侍奉耶和华,因为侍奉神乃是我们的生命!阿门!

第一点,在第33章的第8节,以利户说你所说的我听见了,也听见你的言语。约伯怎么说呢?我是清洁无过的,我是无辜的,在我里面没有罪孽,神找机会攻击我,以我为仇敌,把我的脚上了木狗,窥察我一切的道路(《约伯记》33:8-11)。我问你,以利户说的话是不是约伯说的?如果我们当中有人这么认识神。你就走了约伯不太正确的路。 虽然约伯在这个过程当中说了这话,后来他说什么?我以前是风闻有神,后来才亲眼认识神。这个不是不认识神的结果。这个时候约伯其实还没有认识神,约伯还是喜欢问这个为什么那个为什么,他想知道很多的东西,那这个时候,以利户没有把约伯说对的东西拿来评价,以利户是把约伯说的不太对的东西拿来说一下,好让我们能够了解约伯他的问题出在哪里。 我们清洁无辜也好,我们没有罪孽也好。但是我们不能说神找机会攻击我。神找机会攻击你,神跟你玩。好玩吗?我不觉着神会做这样的事情。攻击我们跟我们玩。一点儿也不好玩。我想今天我们要学会一件事情。学会什么样的事情呢?神不会攻击我们,也不会以我们为靶子,也不会以我们为仇敌。虽然我们不知道我们发生了一些事情背后发生的一些什么事情。

像我刚才举得那个牧师的例子。我们不知道背后到底发生了什么。但是感谢神,神仍然在那个牧师身上掌权,不是反转了吗?经过了一场七年的非常辛苦的历程。但是又有什么关系呢?所以我们里面如果说是我们觉得我们清洁无过然后就什么事情都不会发生不是这样的。神要让你更加的认识他。所以今天我跟大家分享一个例子。 有一个人说主啊,给我忍耐的心然后另外一个牧师不知道你在求什么?然后他说我在求什么?他说患难生忍耐,忍耐生老练,老练生盼望,如果你要求忍耐,就必然会有患难。我们可能不太了解这样的事情,神做工太奇妙了。 但是我们千万不要说神你攻击我,这样的认识是很有问题的。你知道一个人得了癌症,人就会安慰这个患者说,感谢神,都是神允许这样的事情发生,感谢神吧这是神给你的。你知道那个得癌症的人听到以后,就会产生神攻击我的想法。虽然我们不明白,就算是现在约伯的这种光景我们不明白。但是我们里面,是否开始弃绝一种错误的观念,神攻击我。

**我们当选择何为是,彼此知道何为善。(《约伯记》34:4)** 第二点,在第34章的第5节,你觉得约伯说的对吗?我想以利户挑出来的这些问题太精辟。他以为,我是公义。所以这样的事情允许发生在我的身上。神就夺去你的理。是按理走的吗?不是按理走的,我虽有理还算为说谎言的,我虽无过受过的伤还不能医治。其实我告诉你,神是医治我们的神,如果说还没有得医治,但是我相信神一定会医治我。 所以开始弃绝掉这种错误的负面的谎言。那他是不是在说谎言呢?你不要以为你过去行的那些然后就觉得你是公义。你真的谈不上公义啊。那后来我们认识神的时候,如果凭着约伯这种神夺去我的理这种想法,他就不是公义了。但是他还以为他是公义。因为什么?因为他觉得他过去所行的就是公义。虽然神不去挑他的理。但是并不代表约伯说的是对的。但是约伯这么说实际上是有问题的。 以利户挑出来的问题非常的准确的指出了约伯的问题。其实以利户没有把其他的问题拿出来说,那我想我们今天是否能够反过来说,**神就是我的理。神就是我的生命。神就是我的真理。神就是我的道路**。就认定神就是我的医治,神就是我的供应者,神是我的一切。神断不至虚妄,神断不至于行恶。神一定要是我的拯救,直到永远,虽然我们经历一些事情。 但是这又有什么关系呢?如果这至暂至轻的苦楚可以成就及重无比的荣耀。又有什么了不起呢?带着这种态度藐视我们所面临的这一切的困难,没有什么了不起的。都把他们踩在脚下因为神为我预备的是最好的路阿门!这是约伯的第二个。

**约伯说话没有知识,言语中毫无智慧。愿约伯被试验到底,因他回答像恶人一样。他在罪上又加悖逆;在我们中间拍手,用许多言语轻慢神。(《约伯记》34:35-37)** 我告诉你如果一个人不认识神,就会说这样的话,而不是说以利户说的话。约伯说的那些话有的是信心的话,我们感谢神;但是有一些他还是在那里纠缠有些东西,今天我鼓励大家,千万不要像恶人一样。以利户说了一句话,愿约伯被试验到底。这话是真的。神如果试验你和我,把我们卖到埃及做奴隶,把我们放到监牢里头做囚犯,如果像约伯这样,约瑟会把牢底坐穿永远都出不来,就会被试验到底,今天你和我一定要学会在神的考验试验当中得胜。

以色列人出了埃及进了旷野过了红海,结果他们十次试探神,走那不信的路。你比如说这个地方没有水,没有水就抱怨,为什么没有水,我们还不如死在埃及。 如果有死的心,没有水你怕什么呀?这个人很奇怪,然后摩西就祷告神,神就给他们水,给了他们水你能不能学到功课?应该学到了功课了吧。这地方能有水,我的神太奇妙了。下次再遇到没有水的时候你会怎么做?你会说咱们三百万以色列人一起祷告,我们的神一定会给我们水。然后你也得到水了。 三百万以色列人连大到小在那里抱怨,我们不如死在埃及。神又给他们水,但是他们还是没有学到功课。第三次又没有水,有了水还是个苦的。永远学不会功课,永远学不会功课,结果水的这个功课,神给他们三次然后就把他们判了一个卷,不及格!然后又给别的,也不及格。最后就死在旷野啊。 今天你和我在神的考验当中,神如果考验我们,我们一定不要回答神像恶人一样那样的话就会被试验到底,试验到底是什么意思?就是死在旷野。你要死在旷野还是要得胜?得胜进应许之地多么好。听明白了吗?得着应许是多么美好的事情。你不想要我要,我绝对要,我想,无论遇到什么样的光景,都要刚强壮胆,持守信心。对神绝不轻慢,绝不向神说出恶言,然后罪上加上悖逆,这不是什么好人。

**才说这与我有什么益处?我不犯罪比犯罪有什么好处呢?(《约伯记》35:3)** 约伯的第四个怎么说的呢?他还是不了解在这个得胜里面,怎么能够没有益处。这与我有什么益处。他喜欢平平安安的在世上走过去。但是我告诉你,神为我们预备的路。是何等的丰盛恩典。就算是遇到一些试验和考验有什么关系,都是与我们有益处的。你看《圣经》怎么说,万事互相效力,叫爱神的人得益处。 但是到了约伯那里成了这与我有什么益处。如果有什么事情要开始感谢神,这就是我的益处。这就是神要的。让万事互相效力,叫我得益处。我不犯罪比犯罪有什么好处呢?连已经犯罪和不犯罪都搞模糊了。你说要不要命?

**所以约伯开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。(《约伯记》35:16)** 所以约伯开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。约伯说了多虚妄的话,大家如果查考《圣经》,千万不要引用那虚妄的话当作真理。你搞不清楚的话就不别引用。引用神说的比较好。 开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。一个人如果不认识神,常常发无知的言语。我在服侍弟兄姐妹当中,我只是不好意思说,其实听了以后,我只能说《圣经》上哪里有这话。如果《圣经》里没有这话,大概就是无知。人为什么非要走这无知的路呢?如果走那无知的路。还不要醒过来,执迷不悟,继续奔跑那条无知的路。那愿神怜悯啊。 你不要以为约伯,开口说这些虚妄的话,不是问题。只是因为神,让他经历这样的事情,神只是怜悯他。在这样的光景中说了虚妄的话,神也说算了吧,已经受了这么多的苦,发点儿牢骚就发点牢骚吧。 但是你和我,是否重新再认识,那约伯我想后来没有再记载约伯的故事,只是神加倍的祝福约伯。那后来如果约伯再经历同样的事儿,他会怎么做,不一定是完全雷同的故事,但是可能会经历生命中经历另一轮的考验。 但是如果他是一个风闻有神,现在亲眼看见神认识神,我想以利户这话,神的话,会深深的印在他的脑中。他不再说虚妄的话,一个不认识神的人,是一个非常可悲的事,这是以利户指出约伯五个问题的方面。
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