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【Course】The First Global Online Seminar (3) - The Revelation of the Triumphant Church Lecture 6 - Q&A

2019-07-06 5,542 First Workshop - Revelation of the Victorious Church Justification by Faith Church Planting Pastoral Care Intercessory Prayer Gospel of Grace Church Hopping

Q1: Not quite grasping justification by faith?

Justification by faith is a summary statement Martin Luther arrived at through his reading of the Book of Romans. But what exactly does the justification by faith spoken of in Romans entail? It is believing in the Word of God. Believing in the Word of God is, in fact, believing in what God has revealed in the Bible. What is revealed in the Bible, especially in the New Testament, is the victorious church.

If justification by faith is merely about individual good deeds, then one has veered off course. The Word of God instructs us to build God’s glorious church, a victorious church, to build the body of Jesus Christ, to love one another in Jesus Christ. The entire New Testament reveals the building of the victorious church.

Therefore, people get perplexed when they seize upon the phrase justification by faith. For example, some ask: Are you of the grace gospel? I am not even sure what they mean by grace gospel. The Gospel is, by its very nature, grace. As for the definition of this grace gospel, I cannot find it in the Bible. So, I ask: What is this grace gospel? Believe and receive grace. But what exactly are we believing in? People cannot articulate it clearly.

If you ask me what I believe in, I believe in what God has revealed in the Bible. God says how to build the victorious church, and I act accordingly. You might say you have to work. Well, I too have to work. You toil, I toil; you do housework, I do housework. I do not do any less than others. The issue is not whether we work or not, whether we go to work or not, whether we do housework or not, whether we raise children or not. We do all these things, but they are not our Mingding Destiny. Our Mingding Destiny, our highest priority, is to build the victorious church. Building the victorious church is the answer to all our problems.

Q2: Many feel that building the victorious church sounds like it requires specialized knowledge and abilities. They are insignificant and do not know what they can do to participate?

In truth, there are many things to do. First, one must study the Gaining Grace course, which teaches how to believe and how to live a victorious life in the church. Then, one should follow the pastors in prayer and spiritual warfare. First, gain deliverance, then begin to serve others. In fact, the most important lessons in the entire church are the works of deliverance and binding.

The victorious church certainly possesses the keys of the kingdom of Heaven. Holding the keys of the kingdom, one can draw upon heavenly resources and trample upon the powers of the underworld. Our church has much healing and deliverance because healing and deliverance are the most important revelations in the Bible and the most fundamental works of the church.

We all need to believe that, through Jesus Christ, you have already received the authority to trample upon the devil and the enemy. This is a corporate, unified work. If our brothers and sisters outside are discerning good and evil, being critical, and committing many offenses and injuries, that is not unity. That is eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Our church has a complete pastoral system and courses, including 101 and 201 courses, Gaining Grace and Gaining Mingding Destiny, and healing and deliverance courses. All of these teach what we ought to believe and how we ought to believe.

Q3: What exactly needs to be done to build God's glorious church? What is the most crucial aspect of it?

The most important thing in building God's glorious church is to be reliable, to rely on God’s Word in the Bible. If something is in the Bible, we should do it well. If something is not in the Bible, we should not speak blindly. Distinguish between the major and minor aspects of the words in the Bible, and understand spiritual words clearly. We have taught that the entire theological system of Chinese Mingding Destiny is to continually summarize the most important truths and the second most important truths.

After summarizing, we let the brothers and sisters know how to implement them. When we talk about how to believe, many people like to recite the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed. One sister recited these creeds fluently, but it was of no use. In the end, she suffered from severe depression. These things are useless and powerless because they are not the most crucial. The most crucial thing is the army of God. The army must be disciplined. Our requirements for the church are still quite high, and the requirements for the brothers and sisters are also relatively high.

Commitment is one of the most important characteristics of an army. We are against church-hopping. Church-hopping is a very popular practice today. I know some Christians who do not actively participate in the affairs of their own church. Instead, they actively participate in matters outside the church. They stir up a lot of things, and I cannot see what they are doing. Sometimes, I wonder: Why do some people do a lot of things without considering whether what they are doing is effective or not?

I have found that many people have this bad habit: they do things wrong, but they do not know how to think or change. In fact, church-hopping is spiritual adultery. Not to mention church-hopping, even when attending university, you cannot be at one university today and run to another university tomorrow. Even if you are serving in the army, you cannot be in the infantry today and run to the air force tomorrow. No one will recognize you.

Therefore, people must belong to their own troop. If you carefully read the Bible, you will find that when the twelve tribes came out of Egypt, they were divided into their respective tribes. When the land was divided, it was also divided within their own tribes. Today, church-hopping is very prevalent, and conference-hopping is even more so, but it is all useless. I do not understand why these people continue to church-hop and conference-hop. We should often ask ourselves what we are doing.

Church-hopping and conference-hopping are meaningless. Next, I will share with you an important theme: the shepherding of the church. Shepherding is a very important work of the church, yet many churches still do not have shepherding to this day. Shepherding includes preaching the Word of God. It also includes healing and deliverance, dealing with people's flesh, and then urging the brothers and sisters to implement the Word of God. This is a series of teachings that we have summarized from building the church that are in accordance with the Bible. For example, the conversation between Jesus and Peter is very interesting:

Peter, do you love me?

Lord, I love you.

Feed my sheep.

Shepherding is a very important work of the church, but what exactly is shepherding? When I was in the local church earlier, I was annoyed when the pastor came to my house because it wasted my time and did not solve my problems. If the pastor comes over just to engage in public relations, You are good, I am good, we are all good, then that is of no use. I have always felt that such a practice is not shepherding, and I do not want to do that kind of shepherding.

After I became a pastor, I kept asking God: God, what is shepherding? What exactly is shepherding? God said: Build up people's faith. Building up people's faith means causing people to trust in the Word of God. Trusting in the Word of God involves healing and deliverance, dealing with the flesh, and then obeying the Word of God. This makes the whole matter very clear. I encourage everyone to begin to understand the content of Chinese Mingding Destiny. In fact, the concept of Mingding Destiny theology was mentioned in the Bible long ago. It is just that God has now given me the wisdom to summarize and organize it. Mingding Destiny is actually living for God.

Someone asked me: If you live like this, can you still live your life? I want to say: If you do not live according to the Word of God, how are you going to live your life? Some time ago, there were two sisters. One of the sisters broke down. We ministered to her and introduced to her the concept of living for God. At first, she did not believe it very much. Her children at home were sick in turn. I thought to myself, How are you going to live your life? Everyone in your family is sick. My goodness! When I saw her pastor ministering to her, he prayed for their illnesses every day, but there was no effect.

In the end, this sister had no other choice but to receive what we had received, that building God's church is the most important thing. Only in this way can we solve the problems in our lives. Without such a mind, nothing can be done well. You live and live until you die, and life becomes meaningless.

Q4: Is church-hopping spiritual adultery?

Church-hopping is spiritual adultery. Adultery is unfaithfulness. Unfaithfulness means not knowing what you are doing, being in this church today and that church tomorrow, and not knowing what you are doing. I do not understand why people church-hop because people who church-hop cannot solve any problems.

There was a young couple who used to be among us. Later, they met a seminary teacher. In fact, I also know this teacher. This teacher often visited this young couple and took them away from our church. This couple was very interesting. They loved the Lord very much. When they were among us, they attended six meetings a week. Our church was one of their meetings. They also attended five other meetings, three on Saturdays and three on Sundays.

In the end, this couple left the church and went to another church to work full-time. As a result, after a period of time, that church was almost ruined by them. The senior pastor could not control them. In the end, he could not control them, so the senior pastor expelled this couple from the church. I thought to myself, The church has been ruined by these 'church-hopping' people.

If you are a Christian among us and you are still church-hopping, then you do not have to come anymore. Spiritual adultery is unfaithfulness. Of course, if you do not agree with our church's Mingding Destiny, vision, and theological concepts, you are also wasting time among us. Our church does not lack people. What our church lacks are people who share our Mingding Destiny and are willing to run with us.

I believe that church-hopping is spiritual adultery because each church has its own theological system. In fact, everyone can ignore what I am saying. Some of my views may not be correct, but everyone must go home and read the Bible carefully. One thing is certain: people who church-hop are unlikely to become people who build the victorious church. I have also never seen a pastor who church-hops who has been able to build the victorious church.

I am a very focused person when it comes to doing things. Let me give you an example: I put my sermons on the website. If you want to listen, then listen. If I am asked to preach at other churches on Sunday, I will refuse. I will not go because I do not want to church-hop. If I want to bless them, I can go online and listen directly, which is even easier. But if I come among us and have a need for healing and deliverance, I will arrange for someone to minister to them. After the ministry is over, they should go back wherever they should go.

I am determined to be a focused person. If you read the story of Joshua and Caleb, you will know that God said that they had a focused heart to follow God. Focus is a very important quality.

Q5: To build God's glorious church, what should we as individuals do first?

What you do yourself is not the most important thing; what is important is what the whole team does. The pace and progress of the entire team must be consistent. It is like military training. If others are marching in step while you are marching out of step, you will easily be kicked out of the army. During military parades, the steps are very synchronized. If each person goes their own way, strolling around like dancing in the plaza or taking a walk, it won't work. If you stroll around like that, even the plaza dancers won't take you.

So, to build a glorious church, we as individuals must follow the church together. First, we must start reading the Bible properly. The question everyone is asking is a good one. I think it is already very clear in our Chinese Mingding Destiny that being a disciple of Jesus Christ means paying the price for God and putting God's affairs in the most important position.

If you can do the things mentioned above, I guarantee you will live better than before. Actually, God does not want us to pay a price; God wants to bless us. If we diligently follow God's words, we will surely live in prosperity. The ten spies who went into the Promised Land with Joshua and Caleb all died, but Joshua and Caleb inherited the land. Which do you think lived better? Of course, those who diligently keep and follow God's words lived better.

Once, I received a phone call from a brother who had lost money in his business. He called me to ask me to pray for his money and business. I replied that I do not pray for these things. He said that the Holy Spirit moved him to pray for his money and business every day. I asked him: How did the Holy Spirit move you? He said: The Holy Spirit often wakes him up in the middle of the night and moves him to pray for money.

As a result, the more he prayed, the more money he lost, almost losing all three million. Later, he asked me: If it wasn't the Holy Spirit waking him up in the middle of the night to pray, then who was it? I said: It was an evil spirit, because I have never seen in the Bible that the Holy Spirit wakes people up in the middle of the night to pray for money.

Actually, our church used to pray for money, pray for renting houses, pray for finding boyfriends and girlfriends, pray for many things, but we didn't pray for the church. As a result, nothing worked, no problems were solved, and everyone felt very uncomfortable. But some things were very interesting. Some things, after praying for them, actually came to pass. Brothers and sisters, the devil likes to confuse people with these things. Even the words of people who jump rope often come true.

I have a basic theory: I basically don't do what is not in the Bible, and I don't pray for things that are not prayed for in the Bible. But when people get sick, we should do healing and deliverance for them. I myself feel that today's faith has problems. Some people are not familiar with the Bible, and it is easy for the devil to deceive them.

But it is difficult for the devil to deceive me. For example, the devil said to Jesus: If you are hungry, you can turn stones into bread. As a result, Jesus answered the devil: Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God. Jesus taught that if we seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, all the things we need will be added to us.

I don't believe I need to pray for these things. I believe that if I walk in God's plan, I don't need to ask for these things at all. I only need to seek the kingdom of God and his righteousness. Praying for houses and constantly praying for these things is actually being led by one's own desires. With God, you have everything. Whether you have a house or a car is not important. I don't value these things very much. I sold my car and exchanged one car for two bicycles, one for my wife and one for me. The quality of life has not decreased, and we are living quite well.

I am very confused. I don't know why people spend their whole lives asking for these things. When I first believed in the Lord, I was greatly shocked. A Christian couple I knew loved cars and houses very much. So they prayed, asking God to bless their car. Cars in Singapore are very expensive. As a result, they rushed to buy a car when the price was relatively low, and then they went on stage to testify about how much they loved the car and how comfortable they were sitting in it.

Half a year later, the car was destroyed and they died. I went to the funeral. Their faces were all stitched up with needles. Looking inside the coffin from the outside, it was very tragic. At that time, I told God that I would not love the world or the things in the world for the rest of my life. Whether I have a car or a house, if I have it, I have it; if I don't have it, I don't have it. I don't care about these things. I only care about God.

Later, there was another young pastor in his 30s who loved cars very much. Many pastors love cars. When he was driving, he went under a large water truck, and suddenly the car was destroyed and he died. When I went to his funeral, I stood in front of his coffin for a while. The pastor's child was only a few months old at the time. At that time, I said in my heart that I would never love the world for the rest of my life.

Although I don't love these cars and houses, I don't lack these things. I never pursue these things. Even when I was a senior manager, I never cared about these things. So brothers and sisters, start to understand: Don't ask for the world and the things of the world, but only seek God's will. God's will is not houses, bread, or groceries. God's will is to build a victorious church, to build the body of Jesus Christ. God's will is for us to enter into his will, to set the captives free and to set the oppressed free.

Q6: Is it true that the prayers of pastors are more effective than the prayers of members? Why?

Everyone should know that I don't encourage you to pray on your own very much. The pastor's prayers for the sheep he shepherds are definitely much more effective. In the church, it is because we have a relationship of mutual love that God dwells among us. If you read the Gospel of John, you will know that it is God's command for us to love one another. God dwells in our relationship of mutual love, but if there is no shepherding relationship and no relationship of mutual love, then it is not very certain.

I do not approve of you seeking service from someone other than your pastor, because your pastor's service will be very effective. This is how the church is connected. But your pastor's pastor can serve you. I think you must not formalize it. I know that in Chinese churches, it is very popular to find people to lead prayers, encouraging a thousand or ten thousand people to pray for themselves. Actually, in the Bible, Jesus alone is enough, and we have not seen Jesus gather a large group of people to pray for one person.

Some of the things we are seeing now are very confusing. There is a pastor praying on the stage, and more than 300 people are praying for him behind him. Actually, such things are not in the Bible. Why did the Apostle Paul lead many people there to pray? Because he wanted these people to have one mind, one Mingding Destiny, and the determination to build God's glorious church.

Many people often have a confusion, that is, they like to find people outside the church to pray for them, but it is rare for prayers from people outside the church to be effective, because God does not like this. God likes people to have the determination to build the church. Seeking the prayers of the pastor is the thing that God is most pleased with, because the relationship between you and the pastor is the foundation of the church.

In the church, if the relationship between the pastor and the sheep is very distant, and they go everywhere to attend special meetings and various prayer meetings, I don't think highly of it, because doing so is not building God's church. If you want to build the church, then love one another well in the church with the brothers and sisters, and pray with your pastor, in your small family and in your pastoral district.

In my experience, a pastor's prayers for the sheep are usually useful. That is part of God's plan, not because the pastor is more capable, but because this is what God is pleased with, because this is building God's church. If everyone is cultivating alone at home and praying for themselves at home, then what is the point of building a church? I am against the idea of not wanting to trouble others with one's own problems and praying for oneself. If you think this way, then when others contact you and need you to serve, you will also find it troublesome, so we all need to readjust our mentality.

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因信称义是马丁路德读《罗马书》总结出来的·一句话·,但是《罗马书》所讲的因信称义到底是信什么?是信神的话,其实信神的话就是信神在《圣经》里面所启示的。《圣经》里所启示的,尤其在新约,那就是得胜的教会。 如果说因信称义只是个人的好行为的话,那就偏了。神的话告诉我们要建立神荣耀的教会,得胜的教会,建立耶稣基督的身体,在耶稣基督里彼此相爱,整本新约《圣经》所启示的,就是建造得胜的教会。 所以人在抓因信称义这句话的时候就有些困惑。比如说,有人问:你们是不是恩典福音?我也不知道他们所指的恩典福音是啥。福音本来就是恩典,至于这个恩典福音是啥定义,我在《圣经》里也没找着。那我就问:恩典福音是啥啊?信就得着恩典。那到底在信啥啊?人说不清楚啊。 如果你问我信啥,我信神在《圣经》里所启示的,神说如何建立得胜的教会,我就如何去落实。那你说你还要上班,其实我也是需要上班的啊。你干活我也干活,你做家务我也做家务,我一点也不比别人做得少。问题不在于我们做不做工,上不上班,做不做家务,养不养孩子,我们是都做了这些,但这些都不是我们的命定,我们的命定和我们最高的优先级是建立得胜的教会。建立得胜的教会是我们一切问题的答案。

其实可以做的事很多,首先就是要去学习《得着恩典》的课程,《得着恩典》讲的就是如何相信,如何在教会当中过得胜的生活,然后跟着牧者一起去祷告争战。首先要得着释放,然后开始服侍别人。其实整个教会最重要的功课就是释放和捆绑的工作。 得胜的教会一定有天国的钥匙,拿着天国的钥匙,就能支取天上的资源,然后就可以践踏阴间的权势。我们教会有很多医治释放,就是因为医治释放是《圣经》里最重要的启示,也是教会最基本的工作。 所有我们需要相信,你们靠着耶稣基督已经得着权柄,践踏魔鬼仇敌那是一个团体合一的工作。那如果我们的弟兄姐妹在外面都识别善恶,挑剔,然后还有很多冒犯和伤害,那就不叫合一,那就是我们吃了识别善恶树上的果子。我们教会有一整套牧养体系和课程:包括101 和201课程,得着恩典和得着命定,还有医治释放的课程,都是在讲我们应该信什么,应该怎么信。

建立神荣耀的教会最重要的是要靠谱,靠《圣经》上神的话。《圣经》上有的话,我们照着好好做,《圣经》上没有的,我们不要瞎说。把《圣经》里面的话分主要的和次要的,把属灵的话语了解清楚。我们讲过华人命定神学的整个神学体系就是把第一重要的真理,第二重要的真理不断的总结出来。 总结出来以后就让弟兄姐妹知道该怎么样去落实。当我们讲到该怎么信的时候,很多人喜欢背《使徒信经》,《尼西亚信经》,有一位姐妹背这些信经背的滚瓜烂熟,结果也没有什么用,最后得了严重的忧郁症。这些东西没有用,也没有能力,因为它们不是最关键的,最关键的是神的军队。军队必须是严谨的,我们当中对教会的要求还是很高的,对弟兄姐妹的要求也比较高。 委身是军队最重要的特征之一,我们反对跑教会。跑教会是今天非常流行的做法,我就认识一些基督徒,自己教会的事情他们不积极参加,教会外面的事情他们反倒很积极的参加,整了很多事情,我都看不清他们到底在干什么。有时候我就想:为什么有些人会做一大堆东西,却不考虑他们做的这些东西是有效还是无效? 我发现很多人有这个坏习惯,做事情做错了,也不知道思考,不知道改。其实跑教会就是属灵的淫乱,不要说跑教会,就是读大学,你也不能今天在这个大学,明天跑去另外一个大学啊。就算你在部队当兵,你也不能今天在步兵,明天跑去空军当兵。没有人会认可你。

所以人要归在自己的部队。如果你认真读《圣经》你会发现,当十二个支派出埃及的时候,是分成各个支派,分地的时候也都在自己的支派里面分。今天跑教会非常盛行,跑特会就更多,其实都没有用,但是我搞不清楚为什么这些人还在继续的跑教会,跑特会,其实我们应该经常问问自己到底在做什么。 跑教会,跑特会没有任何意义。接下来我会和大家分享一个重要的主题,就是教会的牧养,牧养是教会一个非常重要的工作,直到今天很多教会都没有牧养。牧养包括传讲神的话,还包括医治释放,对付人的肉体,然后开始督促弟兄姐妹把神的话落实出来。这是我们在建立教会当中总结出来一系列合乎《圣经》的教导。比如说耶稣和彼得之间的对话就很有意思: 彼得,你爱我吗? 主啊,我爱你。 你牧养我的羊。 牧养是教会一个非常重要的工作,但是牧养到底是什么呢?我早期在当地的教会,牧师来我家我可烦了,因为浪费我的时间,也不解决我的问题。牧师过来如果只是搞点人际关系,你好我好大家好,那没有什么用。我一直觉得那样的做法不算牧养,我也不想做那样的牧养。

我做了牧师以后就一直问神:神啊,啥是牧养啊?到底啥是牧养?神说:建造人的信心。建造人的信心,就是让人信靠神的话。信靠神的话就是要医治释放,对付肉体,然后遵行神的话。这样就把整件事情整得很清楚。我鼓励大家开始了解华人命定神学的内涵,其实《圣经》里早就提到命定神学的概念,只是现在神赐给我智慧让我总结和整理出来,命定其实就是为神而活。 有人问我:像你这样过,那日子还过不过?我想说:如果你不照神的话而活,你的日子要怎么过?前面一段时间有俩个姐妹,其中一个姐妹崩溃了,我们服侍她,把为神而活这样的观念介绍给她。一开始她不太相信,她家里的孩子轮流生病,我就在想,你这日子咋过啊?家里每一个人都生病,我的天啊,我看到她的牧者在服侍她的时候,每天就是为他们的疾病祷告,然后也没有什么果效。 到最后这位姐妹没有其它的办法,只有领受我们所领受的,就是建造神的教会是最重要的。只有这样才能够解决我们生命当中的问题。如果没有这样的心志,什么都干不好的,活着活着就死了,生命变得没有任何意义。

跑教会是属灵的淫乱,淫乱就是不忠心,不忠心就是不知道自己在干嘛,今天在这个教会,明天在那个教会,也不知道自己在干嘛。我不明白人为什么要跑教会,因为跑教会的人什么问题也解决不了。 有一对小夫妻以前在我们当中,后来他们认识了一个神学院的老师,其实这位老师我也认识。这位老师经常去探访这对小夫妻,就把这对夫妻从我们教会带走了。这对夫妻俩很有意思,他们很爱主,他们在我们当中的时候,一个星期参加六场聚会,我们教会是他们的其中一场聚会。他们另外还参加五个聚会,星期六参加三个,星期日参加三个。 最后这对夫妻离开教会,去到另外一间教会做了全职同工,结果一段时间,那间教会差点被他们搅黄了,主任牧师也管不了,最后实在管不了他们,主任牧师就把这对夫妻从教会里开除了。我就在想,教会被这些跑教会的人败坏得要命啊。 你如果在我们当中做基督徒,你还在跑教会,那你就不用来了,属灵的淫乱就是不忠心。当然如果你不认同我们教会的命定,异象和神学观念,你在我们当中也是浪费时间,我们教会不缺人。我们教会缺少的是和我们一起有命定,愿意奔跑的人。

我认为跑教会就是属灵的淫乱,因为各个教会都有不同的神学体系。其实大家可以忽略我讲的,我的有些观点也不一定对,但大家一定要回家好好读《圣经》,有一点可以确定:跑教会的人很难成为建立得胜教会的人,我也从来没见过跑教会的牧师能够建立得胜的教会。 我是一个做事非常专一的人,我给大家举个例子:我把我的讲道放在网站上,你愿意听就听,如果星期天请我去其它教会讲道,我都会拒绝,我不会去,因为我不想跑教会。如果想要祝福他们,可以直接去网上听,还更容易一些。但如果来到我们当中有医治释放的需要,我会安排人服侍他们,服侍完了该回哪就回哪。 我定意要做一个专心的人,你如果读约书亚和迦勒的故事,你会知道神说他们有专心跟随神的心志。专心是一个非常重要的素质。

自己怎么做,其实不是最重要的,重要的是整个团队怎么做。整个团队的步伐和进度都要一致。就像军队训练一样,别人走正步的时候你走方步,你很容易被踢出军队。军队检阅的时候,步伐非常的整齐。你走你的,我走我的,大家溜溜哒哒像跳广场舞或者散步是不行的,你如果溜溜哒哒,就连广场舞都不会带你的。 所以要想建立荣耀的教会,我们个人就必须跟着教会一起走。首先,必须开始好好读《圣经》。大家问的是一个好问题,我想我们华人命定神学里已经讲的非常清楚,做耶稣基督的门徒就是为神付代价,把神的事放在最重要的位置。 如果你能做到上面说的几点,保证你比以前活得好。其实神不是要我们付代价,神是要祝福我们。如果我们好好遵行神的话,我们肯定会活出兴盛。跟约书亚和迦勒进去应许之地的那十个探子都死了,但约书亚和迦勒却得地为业。你说哪个活得好?当然是谨守遵行神话语的人活得好了。

有一次我接到一个电话,有一个弟兄,他做生意做赔了之后,就打电话给我,请我为他的钱和生意祷告,我回复他说我不为这些事情祷告,他说圣灵感动他,让他天天为他的钱和生意祷告。我问他:圣灵怎么感动你的?他说:圣灵经常半夜把他叫醒,感动他为钱祷告。 结果祷告完,生意越赔越多,最后三百万差不多全赔了。后来他就问我:如果不是圣灵叫醒他半夜祷告,那会是谁呢?我说:那是邪灵,因为我在《圣经》里面没有看到过圣灵会在半夜把人叫醒为钱财祷告。 其实我们教会以前为钱财祷告,为租房子祷告,为找男女朋友祷告,为很多事祷告,就是不为教会祷告。结果是什么事也不行,什么问题也解决不了,大家都很难受。但是有一些事情很有意思,有的事祷告完了,还真成就了。弟兄姐妹,魔鬼很喜欢用这些事情迷糊人,就连跳大绳的人说的话,有很多也会成就。 我有一个基本的理论:《圣经》里没有的,我基本上不照着做,《圣经》里没有为这些事祷告,我也不会为这些事祷告。但是人生病就应该为他们做医治释放。我自己觉得今天的信仰很有问题,有些人对《圣经》不熟,魔鬼骗他们很容易。 但是魔鬼很难骗得了我,你比如魔鬼对耶稣说:你如果饿了,可以把石头变成饼。结果耶稣回答魔鬼:人活着不是单靠食物,而是靠神口里的一切话。耶稣的教导是,如果先求神的国和神的义,我们所需的一切神都会加添给我们。 我不相信我需要为这些事情祷告,我相信如果我行在神的计划当中,这些事我根本不需要求,我只需要求神的国和神的义。为房子祷告,不断的为这些事情祷告,其实是被自己的私欲牵引,有了神什么都有了,有没有房子,有没有车这些都不重要了。我不太看重这些东西,我把汽车卖了,一辆汽车换成2个脚车,我老婆一个脚车,我一个脚车,生活品质不但没有降低,活得也挺好。

我很困惑,不知道人一辈子为什么要求这些东西?我早期信主的时候,我受到极大的震撼,我认识的一对基督徒夫妻,非常的爱车,也非常爱房子。结果就祷告,求神祝福他汽车,新加坡的汽车非常贵。结果他们赶到价格比较低的时候买了车,然后就上台做见证,说他们怎么爱车,坐在里面多么舒服。 半年以后车毁人亡,我去参加葬礼,那脸都是针缝起来的,从棺材外面往里看,那是非常的惨。当时我就告诉神,我一生一世不爱世界和世界上的东西。什么车啊房子啊,有就有,没有就算了,我不在乎这些,我只在乎神。 后来又有一个30多岁的年轻牧师非常爱汽车,爱汽车的牧师很多,他开车的时候,就钻到洒水的大卡车底下,一下子车毁人亡。我去参加他葬礼的时候,也在他的棺材前面站了一会。这位牧师的孩子当时才几个月大啊,当时我在心里说,我一生一世都不要爱世界。 我虽然不爱这些车啊,房子啊,但是我也不缺这些东西。我从来不追求这些东西,就算是我做高级管理的时候,我也从不在乎这些东西。所以弟兄姐妹要开始了解:不要求世界和世界上的事,单单求神的心意。神的心意不是房子,面包,买菜,神的心意是建造得胜的教会,建造耶稣基督的身体。神的心意是让我们进到他的旨意当中,使被掳的得释放,被压制的得自由。

大家要知道我不太鼓励你自己祷告,牧者为他所牧养的羊祷告,绝对好使得多。在教会当中,就是因为我们有彼此相爱的关系,所以神住在我们当中。你如果读《约翰福音》你就会知道,让我们彼此相爱那是神的命令,神住在我们彼此相爱的关系里面,但是如果没有牧养关系,没有彼此相爱的关系,那就不太确定了。 我不赞成你找牧者以外的人服侍你,因为你的牧者服侍你会非常有效,教会就是这样连接起来的,但是你牧者的牧者可以服侍你,我觉得千万不要形式化。我知道在华人的教会里,非常流行找人带祷,鼓动一千人一万人为自己祷告。其实在《圣经》里面,耶稣一个人就够了,也没有看到耶稣整一大群人一起为某一个人祷告。 现在我们看到的事情有些很让人困惑。有一个牧师在台上祷告,后面整300多人为他祷告,其实这样的事情在《圣经》里面都没有。为什么使徒保罗带领很多人在那里祷告?因为他要让这些人同有一个心志,同有一个命定,同有建立神荣耀教会的决心。

很多人常常有一个困惑,就是喜欢找教会外的人祷告,但是找教会外面的人祷告,好使的时候不多,因为神不喜欢这样,神喜欢人有建造教会的决心,找牧者祷告是神最喜悦的事情,因为你和牧者的关系就是教会的根基。 在教会当中,如果牧者和羊之间关系很疏远,到处去参加特会和各种祷告会,我就不是很看好,因为这样做不是在建立神的教会。如果你要建立教会,那就好好的在教会里面和弟兄姐妹彼此相爱,你和你的牧者,在你的小家庭和牧区里面祷告。 在我的经验里面,牧者为羊祷告通常有用,那是神计划的一部分,不是因为牧者更有能力,而是因为这是神喜悦的事情,因为这是建造神的教会。如果每个人都在家独自修行,在家自己祷告,那还建立教会做什么呢?我反对那种自己的问题不想麻烦别人,自己为自己祷告的想法。如果你这样想,那当别人联系你,需要你服侍的时候,你也会觉得麻烦的,所以我们都需要重新调整我们的心态。
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