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【Course】Unraveling the Myths - Lesson 05: Myths of Intercession

2019-02-04 12,410 001B Course - Unlocking Myths Course

Let us discuss the myth of intercession. Intercession is quite a confusing matter. Does the Bible contain the word intercession? Yes, the Bible does have this term, but intercession has been misused later on. The truth of intercession in the Bible is just Paul's polite remark in his letters, which is to pray so that we can preach the gospel clearly. This is the only situation where it appears in the Bible. However, many people excessively broaden the concept of intercession.

The most common thing I hear is: Can you intercede for my child? I would ask: What's wrong with the child? It turns out the child is sick and they want someone to intercede for the child. In fact, she goes around looking for people to intercede for her child. Is it effective? Basically, it’s ineffective.

We humans like to do these ineffective things. Today we do ineffective things, tomorrow we do ineffective things. The result of doing this is ineffectiveness. People always do ineffective things, and this is a very serious matter. Christian faith must return to the spirit and truth, to really clarify whether it is effective or ineffective. Always doing ineffective things is a great confusion.

Some people send messages everywhere, asking for intercession for so-and-so. You can't say it's completely ineffective, as there might be a tiny bit of effect later on, but basically the effect has nothing to do with the intercession. So many people have a misunderstanding that the more people pray for them, the better. This misunderstanding even reaches an absurd level, mobilizing tens of thousands of people to pray for a patient globally.

But when we return to the Bible, I have never seen Jesus say, You all pray for Me together. The intercession mentioned in the Bible is actually quite different from the intercession I see now.

For example, how many people did Jesus Christ need to intercede for Him? Actually, He really didn't need much. Why did the Apostle Paul have so many people intercede for him? So that they would remember Paul in their intercession, which is a manifestation of unity.

These people prayed for the work Paul was carrying out, constantly expanding the church, constantly building their own churches. When there were people behind him interceding for him, they had the same vision, the same mission, and the same Mingding Destiny. In other words, this is a state of unity, a manifestation of unity.

Prayer Needs the Spirit of God

Now, regarding our intercession today, for example, interceding for the sick, they believe that the more people who pray, the more powerful it is. But what does the Bible actually say? The Bible says to be filled with the Holy Spirit, and the power of Jesus Christ is limitless.

The Apostle Paul prayed in the Spirit, and then he had power. Because what was the effect of his praying in tongues? The effect was more filling of the Holy Spirit, and more filling of the Holy Spirit would bring more power. In other words, power is related to the filling of the Holy Spirit, because the Bible says:

But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be My witnesses both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and even to the remotest part of the earth.” (Acts 1:8)

Power is related to several things: Most importantly, it is related to the Holy Spirit. When the Holy Spirit comes upon us, we will receive power. So we need to understand this matter of intercession, it is a myth. I have never seen Jesus need a large group of people there to intercede.

Why is it that a certain evangelist is so powerful in his preaching? Is it because there are many people behind the scenes interceding for him? Such a thing actually has no clear precedent in the Bible. I have not found it. If you find it, you can tell me.

I have a basic principle, which is that if there is a precedent in the Bible, we will carefully study it. If there is no precedent in the Bible, at least it must be in line with the Bible. Therefore, whether it is the service of an evangelist or a patient who needs prayer, there is no need to use the concept of intercession extensively.

Prayer Needs Unity

Many churches have intercession teams. A long time ago, there was an intercession warrior who was the captain of the intercession team. His prayer for the pastor of their church was quite astonishing.

One day, he called me and asked if he could come to our church. He said he didn't want to go to their church. Every night he had severe stomach pain. I led him in prayer, and he had a great manifestation, with demons howling inside him. I talked with him and learned that he had great opinions and disagreements with his church.

He thought that everything he received was from God. He prayed to ask God to change his pastor. This is a big problem, this is a manifestation of manipulation. There is no such record in the Bible. How could this not attract demons?

We often have misunderstandings. Pastors fly frequently, and those who don't know think they are serving God and have no time to pray, so they find an intercession team. Is this feasible? The Apostle Paul was a man of prayer, and he prayed himself, he did not need intercession. What he needed was a team with one heart and one mind.

A sister, the pastor of her former church, needed the people below to pray for him. He said that he was at the forefront and most vulnerable to the attacks of the devil. I was thinking, is there such a record in the Bible? Do not use wrong theological concepts to create a lot of trouble.

Some people in the church release a lot of fear, saying that there are arrows shooting at them, and ask everyone to intercede for them. The confusion brought by intercession far outweighs its benefits, so we must explain the myth of intercession to everyone. Prayer cannot be replaced. Emulating Jesus is the key. When did Jesus ask people to pray for Him, while He Himself did not pray?

We must be a person of prayer, and we don't need any intercession captains. It's good for us to pray together. The word intercession has been misused. It is not that the more people who pray, the more powerful it is. Our power has little to do with how many people pray together, it has to do with unity.

For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.” (Matthew 18:20)

Why doesn't the Bible say two or three ten thousands people? If the Bible says that twenty or thirty thousand people have to pray together, then if the prayer is not answered, people will easily attribute it to not having so many people involved. This explanation is troublesome. Prayer is better when it is more united, not when there are more people. Two or three people is very practical.

Based on the Bible

Once we understand the basic principles, we should return to the Bible when we encounter issues, to see if there is such a saying. If there isn't, we must be careful. To the brothers and sisters who come among us, whether they are new or have been here for some time, I encourage you to develop such a habit, to return to the Bible to see, and not just echo what others say.

I often receive this kind of message: Pray for me. I say: Come, I'll lead you in prayer together. The other person says: No need, just intercede for me. I find it very strange. When have you ever seen a mute, a deaf person, or a blind person at home, and then asked Jesus to intercede for him? It doesn't seem like there's such a thing; they all go to Jesus themselves.

Therefore, intercession sounds like a joke. You will find that I rarely say, Everyone pray for me. How good it is that I lead everyone to pray! Isn't it? So, brothers and sisters, begin to remove the wrong concepts in your faith. It's not that the more people who pray for you, the more powerful you are. This statement has no basis in the Bible.

Nor is it that if you are sick, the more people who pray for you, the higher the probability of your healing. It's not like that! This also has no basis in the Bible. What I see is that when Jesus touches someone, they are healed immediately. When Paul does something, they are healed. This is not a difficult thing.

Then do we need everyone to pray together? Yes, we do. Do we need everyone to have the same vision, the same Mingding Destiny, the same mission? We need it.

You will find that in the early days, we eliminated this bad habit. We don't have prayer request forms. The prayer request forms don't write about whose family has a baby, who is getting married, or which brother is sick and hospitalized, and then everyone prays for these people.

But what do we have? We pray together to build a glorious and victorious church. And what do we pray for? We pray for our families, to trample on the dark powers of our families, to pray for the release of the souls of our families who have been taken captive. These are the things we do.

What else do we do? We pray with building the Body of Jesus Christ and building the church as the core, absolutely not for our trivial matters. We got rid of this bad habit a long time ago. We remove the myth of intercession from the church. Why? For example, if someone has a strong reaction to pregnancy, asking her pastor to pray for her, the adverse reactions of pregnancy will really disappear.

Therefore, when someone asks you to intercede for them, don't bullshit with them. Why? Because it is not a biblical truth. What should we start learning? Learn to remove the myth of intercession and return to the true teaching of the Bible.

Then there are some people who want to find a prayer partner, and then the two of them intercede for each other. I don't think this is taught by the Bible either. But I think everyone can develop what habit? Find your pastor to lead you in prayer.

But don't find your pastor to do P2P investments together, and end up losing terribly. Finding your pastor is not for those things. If you do those things among us, and you lose, don't come to me. We don't need prayer partners; we need to be unified with the pastor. Everyone must know, don't mix these things together. He is my pastor, so I follow him to do P2P. Then this thing really becomes a shitty thing.

There are many places among us where we need to remove myths. Intercession is one, seeking prayer partners is another. Start looking for your pastor. Some people also do strange things through these positions. Our brothers and sisters must know that the word of God is the key! If you mess around without conforming to the word of God, even if it is your pastor, he will lead you into the ditch.

We must know that above the pastor is the district leader, isn't it? What's more, the district leader is your pastor, and above there are higher leaders. Don't be deceived by these messy things.

Our brothers and sisters should develop a habit of becoming more and more sensitive in the spirit. If one day I suddenly ask you to borrow money, then you have to be careful. Who knows whether it is a person or a ghost at that time? Brothers and sisters should begin to have a very sensitive spiritual insight into many things. Don't be spiritually blind and go around tossing when you suffer losses in the end.

Whether it is intercession or finding a partner to pray with, they are basically not the truth of the Bible. Unless we implement those more important truths, and then we go to implement those less important truths.

Intercession is not discussed in detail in the Bible, nor does it occupy a very important position. It's just that Paul's letters probably wrote a set of polite words. Brothers and sisters, from now on, learn to be a person of prayer. There is a lot of prayer in our church, so you have a lot of time to pray. Let's remove this myth of intercession.

May God bless everyone.

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我们一旦了解了基本原则,遇到事就好好的回到《圣经》里面,看到底有没有这么个说法,没有这么个说法,咱就要小心了。来到咱们当中的弟兄姐妹,不管是新来的,还是来了一段时间的,我都鼓励你养成这样的习惯,回到《圣经》里去看,别人云亦云。 我经常收到这种信息:为我祷告。我说:来,我带你一起祷告。对方说:不用,你就为我代祷就行了。我就觉得很奇怪,你什么时候看着一个哑巴,或者一个聋子,一个瞎子在家里,然后让耶稣为他代祷,好像没有这样的事,他们都是去找耶稣的。 所以,代祷这事听起来简直就是笑话,你会发现我很少说大家为我祷告。我带着大家祷告多好啊!是不是?所以,弟兄姐妹开始除去信仰里的错误观念,不是越多人为你祷告,你就越有能力,这话没有《圣经》的根据。 也不是你得病了,越多人为你祷告,你得医治的概率就越高,不是这样的!这也没有《圣经》的根据。我看到的病得医治,都是耶稣一摸就好了,保罗一弄就好了,这不是一件很难的事。

那我们需不需要大家一起祷告呢?需要。我们需不需要大家有同样的异象,同样的命定,同样的使命呢?我们需要。 你会发现早期的时候,我们就杜绝了这种恶习。我们没有祷告的单张,祷告的单张上没有写谁家生孩子,谁结婚,某某弟兄生病住在医院里,然后大家为这些人祷告。 但是我们有什么呢?我们在一起祷告,建立一个荣耀得胜的教会。然后祷告什么呢?为我们的家族祷告,践踏我们家族的黑暗权势,为释放家族被掳的灵魂祷告,这些是我们做的。 我们还做些什么呢?我们祷告以建造耶稣基督的身体,建造教会为核心,绝对不是为自己那些琐碎的事项,我们很早以前就没有这个坏习惯。我们把代祷的迷思从教会里除去,为什么呢?你比如说有人怀孕反应很强烈,找她的牧者祷告一下,怀孕的不良反应真的会消失。 所以,有人找你代祷的时候,你也别去跟他们扯蛋,为啥呢?因为它不是一个《圣经》真理。我们要开始学习啥呢?学习除去代祷的迷思,回到《圣经》真正的教导里边。 那还有一些人希望找到祷告伙伴,然后两个人彼此代祷,我觉得这东西也不是《圣经》教的。但是我觉得大家可以养成什么习惯呢?找你的牧者带你祷告。

但是别找你的牧者一起整P2P呀,最后把自己赔的很惨。找你的牧者不是干那些事,你在咱们当中干那些事的话,你赔了,别来找我。我们不是需要祷告伙伴,我们需要跟牧者合一。大家一定要知道,千万别把这些事都搅和到一起,他是我的牧者,所以我跟着他做P2P,那这事儿就真成了屁事。 我们当中要除去迷思的地方还很多,代祷是其中一个,寻求祷告伙伴是另外一个,要开始寻找你的牧者。有一些人也透过这些位分做些奇怪的事,咱们的弟兄姐妹要知道,神的话才是关键呐!不合乎神话语的你瞎整,就算是你的牧者,也把你带沟里去了。 我们要知道,牧者上边还有牧区长,是不是?更何况牧区长才是你的牧者,上边还有更高的领袖,千万别被这些乌七八糟的东西迷惑了。 咱们弟兄姐妹要养成一个习惯,灵里头越来越敏锐,假如有一天我突然间跟你借钱,那你可要小心了,谁知道那个时候是人是鬼啊?弟兄姐妹要开始对很多的事情有一个很敏锐的属灵的看见,你别做属灵的瞎子,最后吃亏的时候到处去折腾。 不管是代祷也好,找伙伴祷告也好,基本上都不是《圣经》的真理。除非我们把那些更重要的真理落实了,然后我们再去把那些不太重要的真理落实。 代祷在《圣经》里没有详细论述,也不占有非常重要的地位,只是,保罗书信里头大概写了一套客套话,弟兄姐妹从今以后学习做一个祷告的人。咱们教会的祷告是非常多的,所以你有很多的时间可以去祷告,咱们就把代祷的迷思这件事除去。 愿神祝福大家。
微尘
Can Samson be considered a church?
命定小助手
Reply: That's the Book of Judges. It can't be called a church. The church appeared after Jesus Christ. The era of the Judges was an era when everyone did what was right in their own eyes. We encourage everyone not to ask such questions. It's as if you want to be a member of Samson's church. Comment: Can Samson be considered a church?
@Dust: Can Samson be considered a church?
亮光
Teacher, the title of 1 Timothy chapter 2 in the Bible is 'Instructions on Prayer for All.' Its content is: I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people... This is also a letter from Paul. Is it teaching us to intercede and pray for others?
命定小助手
You are right, that's how it should be! But you missed the latter part of that sentence: 'that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.' The purpose of intercession is not for them to receive salvation, but so that we may live godly lives.
@亮光: 老师,圣经提摩太前书第2章的标题就是“有关于代祷的教导”。其内容是:我劝你们第一要为万人恳求、祷告、代求、祝谢。。。。。。这也是保罗的书信,这里是不是在教导我们要为人代祷和代求呢?