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I. Introduction

Good day to everyone! Today, I'm sharing a topic titled: Substance. This is part 6 of the Chinese Mingding Destiny character series. This character must possess substance. The difference between a character with substance and one without is vast!

You see, I am a Northeasterner, and my mother was a very superficial person. Her words were always pleasing to the ear, but during mealtimes, in an era where having enough food was a feat, if a neighbor came by, she would say, Come, come, eat! After he had his fill, the children would go hungry. In those days, earning money didn't guarantee enough to eat. So, this person actually ate, given my mother's enthusiasm. The result? The child definitely didn't get enough to eat, with only that much rice available.

Once the neighbor left, my mother would say, He has no sense of propriety, actually eating when offered! What kind of talk is that? I disliked it greatly, finding it insincere. I raised this point with my mother several times, but she wouldn't listen, accustomed as she was to playing these superficial games. If you were talking to someone like me, I would say: We don't have enough food in our house; you can sit there and watch us eat first. Don't come by when we're eating next time. If I didn't offer you food, I'd feel embarrassed; if I did, my children wouldn't have enough to eat. Is there anything wrong with what I said? There's nothing wrong with it. People think Northeasterners are grounded, but actually, they're not.

One of our brothers lived a miserable life, only seeking me out when his eyes could no longer focus. He was deceived, failed in his work, his company went bankrupt, and his wages were miserably low. Later, his mother came: Oh, thank you, Pastor Liu, for taking care of my son. Heavens, as if I were his son's savior. Then her son chimed in, Pastor Liu, don't listen to my mother; she complains at home. Ah, I said, I know. She's a Northeasterner; my mother is the same.

Later, I believed in the Lord. After believing, I encountered strange phenomena that greatly troubled me. I used to lead Bible studies and be a small group leader. Our church pastor was interesting; offstage, he was a normal person, but once on stage, he would adopt a affected tone. Later, I said, Pastor, you speak like a normal person offstage, so why do you put on airs when you're on stage? He said, That's what they teach in seminary; you can't graduate otherwise. Two different personas, on and off stage—many times, I couldn't get used to it.

Another time, someone came from afar, and I drove to pick him up and take him out to eat. I was newly converted then, and loved the Lord dearly. As soon as someone arrived, I would welcome them, happy to pay the price. I thought that hosting a big-shot pastor would mean hearing some solid, spiritual things, but no. During the meal, their words onstage were different from what they said offstage. Fortunately, I'm a patient person; I don't like to stumble easily.

From that time on, I resolved that if I were to become a pastor, I would be the same person onstage and offstage. So today, I'm especially thankful to God that I've become a pastor who is the same person onstage and offstage. If you get close to me, you'll see that it's true—this pastor is really the same. I often tell jokes, and even though I've told them many times, I don't get tired of them. A little talking, a little laughing; it's comfortable, and life isn't so tiring.

In the church, I encountered things like: Jesus loves you, and I love you too. I'd say, Give me a break; how do you love me? Stuck. Isn't that being pretentious? People would say, Why can't you say something nice? I'd say, I really don't like that. Anyone who has interacted with me, when they've flown in to check me out, finds that this guy's actually quite interesting. They call me this guy, and it's OK with me. They find that this guy has no horns on his head and looks like a normal person. Of course! I'm the same onstage and offstage; what am I pretending to be? Someone said, Pastor, you even get fevers? Of course, I'm a sinner.

I grew up in this hypocritical Christian environment, and my family was also a hypocritical family. Then I grew up in a hypocritical church. I tell you, I was really determined to eat this meal with substance. Why? Because insincerity is no good! For example, some people say, Brother, I'll pray for you. I say, Great, pray for me right now. They say, I can't, I have something to do. I say, That's just bull, you're good at talking nonsense. I know they won't pray for me at home either. A month or so later, when I see them again, I ask, Did you pray for me? They say, What was I supposed to pray about? Oh, they've forgotten everything!

This is how Christians grow up in a hypocritical church, which shaped my mindset: I want to be a person of substance. I wanted to be a person of substance since I was young; I didn't want to be a hypocrite. Because in my mind, I have the idea that hypocrisy is not in line with God's will! I never say, Ah, brother, I'll pray for you. I don't play that game. Later, I used to type a lot. Do you all use WhatsApp? A chat tool? The chat groups are full of this: Brother, I love you, may God bless you. All of it, all superficial. But such an environment has shaped my mindset as a grounded pastor. I thank God, I really thank God! Not solving problems! Not solving problems makes the two-cent teapot all spout.

Once, I drove a pastor home. He said, Pastor Liu, I have chest pains; could you pray for me? I said, Sure, I'll pray for you. I prayed for him, and he got better. After he got better, he went back to his church and said, Pastor Liu is a super charismatic. I wondered, what kind of brain is that?

Later he told me, Pastor Liu, the scale of what you do isn't big enough. I said, How is it not big enough? He said, Like you writing resumes for people, helping them find jobs, training them for interviews—the scale of what you do isn't big enough. I said, What is your scale then? He said, My scale is the Muslim world, the Middle East, Indochina, Central Asia. I thought, it's all this. Oh my God, I can't do what you do! I said, Why don't you go to the galaxy to preach the gospel? Just take over the entire galaxy. Forget it, I see you, you're a mess; you're full of ailments! I thought, my scale isn't big enough. What I hate most is that fake scale, empty rhetoric, shouting slogans, and not solving problems!

What I solve: If you have depression, you'll definitely be healed here; if you have cancer, you'll definitely be healed after listening to me. I really serve until I'm spitting blood, and I want to continue serving. So far, I haven't spat up any blood. I've always thought that a church that solves problems is a grounded church. That also means truly paying the price. To this day, people still live in much falsehood. Are you living in much falsehood? If you find out today, tell me. I can really help you.

I find that this happens especially frequently. I went to a place, and they called me to hold a special meeting. I typically don't like attending these events. After going there, I was a pastor, and they were also pastors; they were embarrassed not to say to me, Pastor Liu, please come up on stage and minister for a bit. The first day when they were ministering, they prayed and the microphone went poof! Have you all seen that before? People fell to the ground in droves. Some were jumping around on the ground, others were lying quietly. They covered them with towels, afraid they'd run away. I thought that was pretty good. Then they said, Pastor Liu, come and minister for a bit. I don't like doing all that, waving banners, blowing trumpets, shouting! I said, Raise your hands if you're sick. Good heavens, almost everyone raised their hands. I said, What's the matter; did you all lie down in vain yesterday? What was the point of lying there?

Later, I first solved their lumbar and cervical problems. People who know me know that I like to solve these problems first. As soon as I started adjusting their lumbar and cervical spines, a large number of people lined up. Later, I found that Christians have many illnesses. Why? Because they engage in too much falsehood. Yes, being falsely overweight! Then I thought, how am I going to fix this? I brought two co-workers. With so many patients, I was a little dumbfounded. I said, Let's do it this way; I'll lead everyone in prayer, and you can hold on to the back of the person in front of you and form a line. Grab the shoulders, and they felt much better after praying with me. Later, I found that I couldn't finish ministering there.

Then a pastor brought someone who was possessed by a dragon spirit, probably mentally ill, saying, In the name of Jesus Christ, the spirit of depression, the spirit of mental illness, come out! Then they said to me, Come, Pastor Liu, you come and minister to him. I reluctantly ministered to him. I thought, I wouldn't play these games with you all again! I thought, there are many churches, and every Sunday, some people go up on stage and collapse for a while, so please don't label me as being charismatic. Charismatic churches are like that. Our church's Bible studies are absolutely first-rate, and we emphasize the word of God very much. Healing and deliverance are absolutely first-rate; solving problems is absolutely first-rate.

One of those who fell was a good friend of mine, every Sunday, he would go to church and fall. When I went to his house to see if his condition had improved, it was actually still the same. After the service, we went out for tea together, and I tentatively, softly asked: Every week you go to church and keep falling down, how come I have never observed you improving? He told me that: I feel more energetic after every time I fall. I said to him: Ah, so the energy and spirit comes from falling down, how come falling down is not causing mental issues? This has been happening so often that is why I have never understood it; I do not do things like that.

There was a sister from Germany whose mother had terminal kidney cancer which I was ministering to, I am not sure if she still alive or passed away, or if she has left to go to another church. As I was ministering and praying for the mother, her condition began to show signs of healing and improvements; the mother even introduced me to another person who had nearly been blinded by an impending and progressive eye disease. My stories are too many to be told here; but the point of my sharing is neither about the mother’s kidney condition nor the progressive blinding eye disease; it was about the the daughter that saw me ministering through prayers. When the daughter saw me ministering in prayer, the sister asked me: “Pastor Liu, can you pray for me as well?” I asked her: “Which condition are you looking for prayer for?” The sister replied that she had been suffering terribly under the terrible effects of migraines for the last twenty years of her life, from her teens to her thirties. I said with excitement that it was not a problem as I loved doing such things as solving problems. As it turned out, after only five minutes of prayers, the migraines were instantly and comprehensively healed!

Both the senior pastors were my acquaintances. The German sister then asked: “Can I ask one question?” I said: “Please tell me!” She said that she had attended countless and innumerable prayer healing events with well-anointed high-level pastors praying for her, but nothing had ever been effective. And she went on to ask why after only five minutes of prayer, I could instantly heal and release her from the terrible migraines. I replied that those celebrity level ministers never truly cared nor placed their heart in ministering to her. And they will pray for you without being heartful, then without a bat of an eye leave you completely without any lasting help or support. I further went on to say that I will not release any person that comes to me for help before the spiritual release is completed, before the spiritual release is completed. “Aha, I understand.” the sister exclaimed. With the devil and demons meeting someone like me that is wholeheartedly dedicated to the mission, the demons are bound to be defeated. However, one must obey what I say afterwards - to turn away from the world.

The question is, “Can I release you before exorcizing and expunging the demonic influence?” The answer is a resounding “no”. When the sinister forces meet someone like me, aren’t they destined for doom? When individuals seek solace and healing with me, complete restoration becomes a reality, contingent, of course, on their commitment to heed my guidance. Yet, what transpires when one finds themselves entangled in worldly affairs? I extend my prayers, only to witness the recurrence of the ailment as they succumb to the allure of the temporal. A cycle ensues, marked by supplications, followed by indulgence in earthly pleasures, perpetuating a seemingly endless loop. Nevertheless, fret not, for as long as your resolve remains unshaken, so too shall my dedication endure, a testament to my unwavering patience. In pondering the matter, I contemplate: Were the Lord Jesus present, what course of action would He undertake? Assuredly, He would proceed in the same vein, for I aspire to emulate His example, albeit as a humble imitation.

The senior pastor and his wife were once living in the same unit whilst having the opportunity to seek support from an event/conference; the conference was organized at the occasion of the senior pastor being the the landlord. Whilst I generally do not like to participate in such activities; if I was to stay at the unit as a temporary resident, I must be respectful for the organizing church. The truth is that I had never understood about such conference meetings anyway; I dislike doing so and instead prefer the method of ministering to individual people instead of gathering scores of people and leading them in yelling and meaningless “woo ha” screams, collecting money from vulnerable people; instead I choose to be different. It’s not about grandiose gestures or self-aggrandizement but about genuine problem-solving, and that’s what I am built to be, nothing else. It so happened that the conference meeting lasted for the first two days. I instead chose to stay in the unit. However on the last day, out of respect,. I still attended about 30% of the conference, whilst using the rest of the time to serve on an individual basis within the unit.

The conference attendees happened to return to the unit staggering and slouching. The first senior pastor shared about the issue of suffering from insomnia and and inability to eat in the days leading up to the event because of anticipating that all the conference attendees will discover about his wife’s depression, whom he thought that he had been successfully hiding the situation from. Hearing this, I immediately ministered to the senior pastor’s wife and she was instantaneously released from this heavy burden. He shared that he had the issue for as long as the last twenty years. I simply invited the senior pastor over and immediately ministered to him as well. As the truth is known by a few, the senior pastors were thinking: “why should should I receive support when both of us senior and leading pastors?”; however what they were thinking will not influence me as I have the skills and tools in doing so. The senior pastor was completely dumbfounded and filled with gratitude.

I firmly believe the Lord Jesus also acts in the same method by caring individually about the person; it is not about singing worship songs ( I have a terrible singing voice!), in reality what is absolutely damnable is the practice of all forms of deception!. In my days of working in the profession of supporting people with IT computer issues through being in customer support, I can firmly attest to the disastrous events from being in such professions. What happens if someone does their assigned tasks terribly but is asked by the boss the reason why their reports have not been done well will they simply blame the software or networking services issues? This is despite the fact that the issue has nothing to do with the reasons mentioned. As the entire organization is heavily in demand of using both software and networking services at the workplace, whoever works as the “software and the network guy” becomes the easiest and the most convenient to blame. These means that I am busy cleaning up and receiving the blame all the time, and that is why I am absolutely in distress and in distaste and antipathy towards all deceiving and deceitful activities and habits. I am absolutely enraged at the issues mentioned but can still sympathize for their reasons; as they had no other logical and socially acceptable reasoning or excuses other than the IT issues. Oh well, despite the fact that I became the scapegoat, I still get paid too!

In the landscape of religious ministry, it's not uncommon to hear proclamations of pastors being occupied with various commitments. However, has anyone ever encountered me admitting to being swamped with duties? Seldom, if ever. If perchance such a declaration were to escape my lips, it likely serves as a mere deflection tactic. Should the inquiry arise regarding my availability for ministerial assistance, and I respond with an alleged busyness, rest assured, the underlying message conveys the insignificance of the matter at hand when juxtaposed against other ostensibly pressing concerns. In truth, my adeptness at prioritizing tasks ensures I am far from inundated. The perception of busyness is often a facade, concealing the actuality of affairs. Should you honor me with your presence, you shall invariably discover a congruence between my demeanor both publicly and privately. Moreover, the revelation shall dawn: I am seldom encumbered. The expenditure of scarce resources to traverse vast distances warrants nothing short of genuine attentiveness and care. Although, admittedly, I do not generally serve in this form. Yet, by the grace of circumstance or providence, should one of my esteemed colleagues or a burgeoning spiritual leader find themselves within my sphere of influence, rest assured, my devotion to their spiritual nurturing shall know no bounds. For I eschew superficiality in favor of efficacious problem-solving. As such, even whilst navigating responsibilities as a customer service representative, my commitment to addressing needs expeditiously shall never waver. Take, for instance, the recent occurrence involving a malfunctioning blender owned by the sister of an acquaintance. Did I, perchance, resolve the matter with swift dispatch? Indeed, I did. My proficiency in expediting resolutions stems from my adeptness at task management, thus mitigating the sensation of busyness.

Hence, the propagation of falsehoods ensues through processes of distortion and amplification. This phenomenon is subsequently christened the Mandela Effect. Are you familiar with the concept of the Mandela Effect? What, pray tell, does it entail? Notwithstanding his vitality, many erroneously believe Nelson Mandela to have perished long ago. Nelson Mandela, a figure of profound significance in both the preceding and current centuries, presided over the transformation of a once prosperous South Africa into a nation beset by poverty. Despite his continued existence, widespread conviction persisted regarding his demise. Upon his eventual passing, declarations emerged: But surely he passed away some time ago?

The essence of the Mandela Effect lies in the dissemination of misinformation. Indeed, certain erudite individuals have furnished pertinent professional insights, which I shall proceed to elucidate: It denotes a collective misremembrance of historical events by the populace, diverging from the factual record. Prevailing scientific communities lack empirical evidence substantiating the veracity of this purported effect. Essentially, it epitomizes the propagation of inaccuracies. Consider, for instance, the television series Journey to the West, where prevalent belief suggests the occurrence of a scene involving immersion in boiling oil within the 1980s rendition. However, in actuality, such an episode was notably absent during that era. Nonetheless, widespread conviction asserts its presence, thus exemplifying what is colloquially termed the Mandela Effect.

The Mandela Effect is misinformation snowballing, where a falsehood becomes truth through repetition. But engineers are different. When they build something, it either works or it doesn't; a plane either flies or it doesn't; a missile either hits its target or it doesn't. We address the problem head-on. Later, I adapted the Mandela Effect to my own version: Slow work, inflated ego, and ultimate failure – that's my Mandela Effect. Making excuses, harming oneself and others, and distorted memories. The most important thing for a pastor is to be genuine, and to be a disciple of Jesus Christ is to be authentic. What do you all think? Not quite satisfied with my interpretation of the Mandela Effect? That's alright; his Mandela is different from mine, or perhaps, slow-delivering.

What I want to talk about today? It's about authenticity; it's paramount. They say Northeasterners are genuine; well, someone like me, a Northeasterner, am truly genuine. Some of you are puzzled by inflated ego, aren't you? It means someone unreliable, scatterbrained. Just hearing it, I say, Does it sound good when you act so high and mighty? No, it doesn't. Inflated ego doesn't sound pleasant; learn some Northeastern dialect. It's like saying scatterbrained. Today, as we read the scriptures, let's not be high and mighty or use Northeastern slang.

II. Scripture

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.” “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.” (Matthew 10:37-42)

III. Prayer

O God! Today, let us be genuine disciples, doing as You say. O God! You are a faithful God, and we shall be faithful disciples. O God! You are a God who gave Your life for us; today, we also offer our lives to You. O God! We shall be Your disciples, for even a cup of water given to one of these little ones in the name of a disciple will be rewarded. How much more reward shall we, as disciples, receive? O God! Inspire each of our brothers and sisters today. Each one yearns to be a genuine disciple. In the name of Jesus Christ, Amen!

IV. Scriptural Background

If you search for the word genuine, you'll find it's a pet phrase of Jesus. Jesus often said, Truly I tell you, or I truly and certainly tell you, right? Search it, and you'll see. With digital versions now, it's much easier to tap and find everything. Genuine is a catchphrase of Jesus Christ! Why did it become a catchphrase? Because Jesus, like me, lived in an era of deceit. In that fake and hypocritical environment, people might think Jesus' words were just like those of others – all talk and no action.

So, to emphasize the weight of His words, Jesus would say, Truly I tell you, I am not Mandela, I am Jesus, and I am telling you truthfully. Do you understand? The concept of discipleship that Jesus emphasizes is profound: being a disciple of Jesus Christ is a remarkable thing, but many have distorted it. Look, welcoming you is like welcoming Jesus – imagine that! Earlier, it was said:

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. (Matthew 10:37-38)

Welcoming a disciple is welcoming the Lord. Welcoming the Lord is welcoming the One who sent the Lord Jesus Christ. So, there is something very interesting about people. Receiving a prophet, not in Jesus' name, but in the name of a prophet. Do you all understand now? If you receive me because I am Teacher Liu, you will gain what I have! That's quite remarkable!

“Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. (Matthew 10:41)

If you don't quite get it, I'll explain: It's not for any other reason. If that person is a disciple, if that person is a disciple of Jesus Christ, unbeknownst to you, but you welcome and accept them. Acceptance means receiving what they say, and then you will gain the benefits that he got from God.

Remember, you need to follow me back to elementary school and study the lesson. If it is in the name of a disciple, for example, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, because of my name as a disciple, you give even the smallest brother or sister in our church a cup of water, a cup of cold water – no need to heat it, no need for fancy tea, just a cup of tap water, maybe with some ice. Giving this little one a drink, that person will certainly be rewarded. Can you see what God is emphasizing? What Jesus is emphasizing? How important the name of a disciple of Jesus Christ is! If you are a disciple, because of your name, give another little one a drink, and that person will be rewarded. I ask you: Is that disciple powerful or not? That disciple is extremely powerful!

Now I am going to critique people again, don't think that I like to critique people. There was a pastor who wanted to go on a mission, and he brought a large group of his disciples. Like pastor, like disciples. They were very eager to go on missions. Do you know why they were so eager to go on missions? Because before the missions, they would stand on the stage, and everyone would crowd to the front of the church: Ah, we are going to mission to Mandela in South Africa! We are going north, east, everywhere! Then they would recite a scripture: If anyone gives a cup of cold water to one of these little ones, you will certainly be rewarded, and many people would offer money. Pastor, here's some money for water! As a result, they received a lot of money, not just a cup of water, but a truckload.

Many people particularly like to quote the passage about giving a cup of water to a little one. But if these pastors are little ones, are they disciples? Pastors aren't little ones They like to act like them, because little ones can collect tea money. They are mistaken; they should be pastors, but they are acting as little ones because little ones can collect that tea money. They really need to go back and reread elementary school, because they have not understood the lessons. So, brothers and sisters, you need to know that the Gospel of Matthew, which is where this story is found, teaches the sending of disciples, from the fifth verse of the tenth chapter.

As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. (Matthew 10:7-8)

Did you see them go out singing? No. What did they go out to do? Did they go out to be little ones to collect money? No. What did they go out to do? To proclaim that the kingdom of heaven is near, to heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, and drive out demons. To solve problems! Sickness is definitely not a good thing. To do what? Am I making myself clear? Write this down in your notebooks today: Usually, a genuine person must clearly state what to do and how to do it. You must know that being a disciple is not easy, it requires paying a price, but the rewards are also very high. When you go out to heal and drive out demons, you need to be told how to do it: don't bring money, don't bring a change of clothes. Don't bring bags, and God will provide. So, this passage speaks of a few things: I tell you the truth. Did you all see it? This passage tell us what to do? How to do it? First: don't bring money, because people will provide; Second: you are like sheep among wolves, so be as shrewd as snakes. You have to be as shrewd as serpents to be able to solve and deal with the problem of demons. Then you go on to say:

Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. (Matthew 10:21-22)

Do you understand? In other words, later you need to know one thing:

“So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. (Matthew 10:26-31)

Wow! That's so well said! Don't be afraid to die. The first point: after you go, what should you do? Heal the sick and drive out demons; the second point: how should you do it? Don't bring luggage, because there will be supply for you. You should be as cunning as serpents, like wolves entering sheep. Then, do not be afraid. Then again, a man's enemy is his own family.

“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.” “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law— a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. (Matthew 10:32-36)

Do you all begin to understand? If you want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, you must do this, you must do it this way, then you must not be afraid of death, and then you must begin to have character, and a person's enemy is his own family. This is the background of this passage. Then it speaks of today's scripture:

Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; (Matthew 10:37)

But after being a disciple:

And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.” (Matthew 10:42)

What is this really talking about? It's talking about how great these disciples were! Do not rush to be little ones in order to receive red envelopes, to receive the money for that cup of tea; it is to rush to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, to give, not to receive. Do you think what I am saying is what the Bible says? If it isn't, let's slowly figure it out.

V. The Office of Disciple is Real

The office of disciple is quite real; the Gospel of the Kingdom is healing the sick. I tell you that sickness is definitely not a good thing, so Chinese Mingding Destiny places great emphasis on healing the sick and casting out demons, and this ability to heal is freely given. In the tenth chapter of Matthew, how much training did the twelve disciples receive? They had very little training, they were nothing! But today, many churches make healing and deliverance very profound, when in reality, they are not. Being a disciple is what is profound, being a disciple is what is difficult, and healing and deliverance is actually a simple matter.

At the beginning of our church, before Chinese Mingding Destiny had even begun to take shape, our whole church was still quite desolate, and we were still caught in the struggle within the knowledge of good and evil, the healing of the sick and casting out of demons had already surpassed many, many people. We were doing healing and deliverance many years ago. Why? Not because we did well enough, but because casting out demons in the name of Jesus Christ is actually a very superficial understanding. Healing and casting out demons is very superficial, so that is given freely and given away freely.

Yesterday I heard a very interesting pastor, he went to a healing and deliverance evangelistic meeting. I know the pastor who was doing the healing and deliverance too, because some of our church friends came from there, he's a charismatic pastor. As a result, this charismatic pastor went to another city, where his church was located, to attend this healing and deliverance meeting. As it happened, the person leading the healing and deliverance meeting knew one of our sisters and stayed at her house. After staying there, this sister helped him organize the entire healing and deliverance meeting. As a result, the pastor who went to other people's meetings returned and said something: I would rather choose to offend people than offend God, and he did not want to participate. What was it? He was afraid of those around him, afraid that he would lose his job.

Later, people often asked him: You have to ask carefully, what spirit is behind this healing and deliverance? Many people think what spirit is behind healing and deliverance? How are they different from the Pharisees of those days? At that time, they said that Jesus' ability to heal came from Beelzebub. The people at that time investigated this, and today many people are investigating what spirit is behind healing and deliverance? This person didn't ask me, but if they had asked me, if these evangelical pastors had asked me, then I would have asked in return: What spirit is behind you who do not heal? Do brothers and sisters know today that the office of a disciple is a very real healing of the sick and the casting out of demons? What spirit is behind it if you do not heal the sick and cast out demons? So, do you all know what it is? So it’s the Mandela Effect”, all talk but no action.

So, can brothers and sisters know today that if you are a disciple of Jesus Christ, the power to heal the sick and cast out demons is definitely given to you? Because this is the first thing God wants you to do as a disciple. If you preach the Gospel of the Kingdom without healing and casting out demons, what Gospel are you preaching? This is the most basic work. So, in the logical system of Chinese Mingding Destiny, healing and deliverance is the most basic work of the church, not some high and mighty work. If you make healing and deliverance a high and mighty work, then it's troublesome. It's not relying on your ability, but on God's ability, is it real? If every church today can understand this tenth chapter of Matthew, is this not a real duty? It is the duty that a disciple should fulfill, not going out to preach the gospel, leading people to believe in the Lord, preaching a gospel without power, what is the use of a gospel without power?

VI. The Needs of the Disciple are also God's Real Provision

Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts— no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff; for the worker is worth his keep. (Matthew 10:9-10)

Is it clear? So, don't brothers and sisters know when reading the Bible that God will really provide? Later, I discovered that money is not the problem at all. This world is very spiritual! Do you know to what extent money is spiritual? When you heal the sick and cast out demons, you will find that money comes in. This is a miraculous thing, don't think that because I said this, you will feel: Wow, I have to go heal the sick and cast out demons, because Pastor Liu said that money will come in when you heal the sick and cast out demons. Then your purpose is wrong, the purpose is not to make money. But later, I discovered that the church that casts out demons, the church that is victorious over demons, the demons will send money. For example: if one country fights another country, the defeated country must pay war reparations, have you discovered? After World War II, Japan had to compensate China, and Germany had to compensate the surrounding countries, that was a very astronomical amount of money! So, the defeated must pay the victorious.

Later, I realised that after I had exorcised the demon, it kept repeating the same phrase: I will bring you money at twelve o'clock, I will bring you money by bullock cart and horse carriage. I wondered why the demon kept saying this. Sending money is a good thing, isn't it! I never liked to believe in ghost stories. But later, as brothers and sisters gradually practice, you will find that every time you can cast out a demon from a person, I tell you, you will really find yourself blessed financially, it's particularly miraculous! So, how good it is to be a disciple! Still need to worry about money? There is no need to worry about life at all. If a demon-caster can trample on the devil and enemy in the spiritual world, do you need to worry about money? No need. I tell you the most deadly thing is to be defeated by the demons. If you are defeated by the demons, then you will be poor as a church mouse. So, everyone slowly and carefully examine.

A pastor spent several million dollars to build a church in a very remote place. The church he built was one that does not cast out demons. As a result, those millions of dollars were wasted, and he ended up losing everything! Praying in the church all day long, praying for what? God, send people here, God, send people here. If you don't cast out demons, where will people come from? If you don't solve problems and do real things, how can God possibly provide in a real way? If you don't do real things, God will also play tricks on you. If you play tricks with God, God will also play tricks with you. The needs of the disciples are the real supply of God.

Seven, Really Need to Add being as shrewd as snakes

I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. (Matthew 10:16)

This sentence is only in Matthew; the other Gospels do not have it. I wonder why we need to be like snakes? You have to know how snakes walk! Snakes always move in curves; they don't move forward like a stick! They move forward in a winding manner. What does it mean to be as shrewd as snakes? I tell you, if you really want to solve problems, there is no straightforward way. For example, if I sell something to you, have you noticed? Have you noticed that salespeople have to beat around the bush? Do you understand? If you say, Buy it! I won't buy it! Then people will leave, and you can't sell it; you can't do it.

So today, I have to teach everyone that if you want to solve people's problems, you really need to make a few turns. If you want to solve people's problems, you really need to be as shrewd as snakes, because the object you are fighting against is the devil. If you are not shrewd enough like a snake, you really can't handle it. Later, I found that in these past years, I have been casting out demons and playing dialogues with demons, and I found that my language skills have greatly increased. After most people deal with me for a few sentences, they are embarrassed.

Have you noticed that I am quite good at speaking? How did it come about? It came from dealing with demons. For example, a demon comes to me and says, Forget it; you don't really like serving him, do you? Wow! This guy is powerful. In fact, I really don't like serving this person; it's really annoying and a bother. You should know that often when you are serving, you really have this feeling. As a result, the demon knows this feeling of mine, and it says, You don't like serving him. Wow! If you have nothing to say at this point, you are in trouble. But I always have something to say. Everyone knows my classic line: According to my own preferences, I don't like to serve. But according to God's word, today you have to go out! You have to leave my sister, leave my brother. Powerful, right? According to the desires of my flesh, I don't like it, but I don't walk according to my flesh; I walk according to God's word. Really, you have to be as shrewd as snakes.

Later, I discovered that all our brothers and sisters, if you want to be disciples, you must learn to shepherd. If you love God, you must learn to shepherd. If you want to do shepherding, you must be as shrewd as snakes. Your mouth must be powerful. If your mouth is not powerful, you can't do it. You need to know that many times, people and demons are not easily distinguishable. But I can see that this is a demon. Later, anyone who has crossed swords with me knows that my words are powerful and carry authority. Those who have crossed swords with me find that they can't win against me. Why? Because I have the shrewdness of a snake inside. I am not Santa Claus. The Bible does not say, I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore, be like Santa Claus. There is no such statement. As soon as I come up, I slap! give you a point, targeting the fatal spot.

I think today, brothers and sisters, you need to be as shrewd as snakes. Originally, I wanted to talk about being as shrewd as snakes as the main topic today. Later, I found that it was only mentioned once in Matthew. I felt like it could be inserted here to talk about it, but it's better to talk about being real. The seventh point is about being real and adding shrewdness like snakes, not foolishly real, do you understand?

Eight, Disciples Must Truly See Through Life and Death

If you cannot see through it, you cannot be a disciple. You must see through it in a real way, not a false way, not seeing through it sometimes and not seeing through it at other times.

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matthew 10:28)

And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. (Matthew 10:30-31)

Can you understand that? Have you noticed that someone who really sees through life and death and someone who sometimes sees through it and sometimes does not are on completely different levels? If you really see through life and death, you will find that nothing that comes to deal with you can scare you. Nothing can deal with you. Why? Because you are not afraid of death, so who can deal with you? Demons are afraid of those who are not afraid of death. This is why when I cast out demons, problems that even anointed pastors cannot solve during their healing and deliverance crusades can be solved by me. The only regret is that people are so used to being unreal that when they encounter someone real, they don't believe it. Did you understand? Suddenly encountering me, they say, This teacher says he has seen through life and death. What is that? How can anyone in this world see through life and death? They say this kind of thing.

Years ago, a pastor's wife got cancer. Everyone said, Let's pray for her. Then I said that I minister to cancer patients, and I am very skilled at it. I am particularly good at dealing with this. Then I said, Do you need me to minister to you? If you need me to minister to you, here is my phone number; you can call me anytime. People came up with a sentence. Can you feel the tone in it? Thank you. What does that mean? It means, Forget it. Can you hear that? Thank you, forget it. I have never seen such ministry in the world. In the past, I just dealt with it perfunctorily, and now someone comes up acting so strange and unreal. Forget it; no need. I was rejected.

Later, she died. After fighting cancer for five years, she died and lay in the coffin. It happened that my friend was presiding over the funeral. Later, I took my coworkers to attend the funeral to see how that thing was done. This time, I really didn't need to pray. Why? People have become accustomed to doing the Mandela Effect. Everyone has become falsely accustomed to saying to each other, Jesus loves you. Suddenly, they encountered someone as real as me and said, Forget it. They are not used to it. They thought I was fooling them, thinking I wanted something from them. What could I want from them?

Nine, Family Members Will Really Hinder You From Being a Disciple

Family members will definitely hinder you from being a disciple. Think about it, your family wants to live a comfortable life, but you want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. How will this work out? You want to dedicate your life to God, but your family wants you to dedicate your life to them. Have you noticed that once you start loving Jesus, your husband comes over and says, What's going on? Do you love Jesus more than you love me? He says, Do you love me or Jesus? If you say, I love Jesus, how can this marriage continue? It's not good. Unless you are as shrewd as snakes, making up stories like me to shut his mouth.

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. (Matthew 10:34-38)

These words are spoken. Who can meet this standard? But what is so great about it? I am just like that. Living becomes a very simple matter. So, you must know that when you become a disciple, you will encounter real obstacles. Do you have this kind of character, or do you not have this kind of character? Do you compromise, or do you persevere? This matter is very interesting. I think that many Christians are in a lukewarm church, being a Christian, and no one in their family objects. But once you become strong and say, I want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, it's over. If you don't have a bit of the shrewdness of a snake, you really can't get through it; it's not easy.

So, you must know that no matter what stories we make up, in your bones you must be a person with a certain character, which is Today, I want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ; don't stop me. You can't stop me. So, if you want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, you must be strong. You can't keep living off others. If you are always living off others, how can you be strong? So today, everyone starts to reshape themselves. Reshaping yourself is also a real thing, starting to do real work, no longer living off others, starting to support yourself in a real way, not only being able to support yourself but also being able to provide for your family. Then you will be powerful.

Brothers and sisters, you must know that it is a battle. It is not easy to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. It is a battle that is trained this way. I tell you, I have this kind of character inside. If I want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ, don't stop me. You can't compare with Jesus. Do I love you? I still love my Jesus. I love my Lord; I want to be a disciple of Jesus Christ. I want to obtain the rewards in eternity. That is how I have come to this point. No one can stop me; this is my bottom line. Let me clean the toilet, no problem. Clean up the house, no problem. Even if I take care of all the housework, no problem. But you can't stop me from being a disciple of Jesus Christ. Serving those cancer patients, paying the price, no one can stop me. Healing the sick and casting out demons is my most basic work.

Ten, Disciples Must Really Dedicate Themselves to God

Dedicating yourself to God is a character trait.

Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. (Matthew 10:39)

Can you understand this sentence? If you can understand this sentence, you can be a disciple of Jesus Christ. Dedicate your life. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it. This is the root cause of many diseases. The root cause of diseases is because they cannot cast out demons, so the demons come to bully you. So, you must begin to lay down your life for Jesus, begin to be a healing and demon-casting disciple. The demons in front of you will be defeated by you. Not only can you defeat the demons in your own body, but the demons in the people you minister to will also be defeated by you. I think becoming a disciple, even giving a cup of water to a little one will be blessed, and they will be blessed because of you, the disciple.

Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward. (Matthew 10:40-42)

Don't be that little one, and don't be the one who gives a cup of water. Be the disciple! This is God's will. Don't do it the other way around. It would be bad if you did it the other way around. A disciple brings a little one, and then someone gives that little one a cup of water. Then he wants to receive a reward. Because of the name of the disciple, what reward should that disciple receive? A disciple lacks no good thing. This is a character trait. Okay, today, let's start being real with God. Our God is faithful. God is a Spirit, so you must worship Him in spirit and in truth. No longer shouting slogans, no longer preaching a false, powerless gospel. Today, start doing real things, which is to solve problems. If your studies are not good, improve them in a real way. If your work is not done well, do it well. If you don't have the ability of engineering technology, learn the thinking methods of engineering technology and solve problems. Then, in a real way, minister to those little ones around you. After giving a lot of unreal examples, I want to make a summary.

Eleven, Summary: Just Be a Real Disciple

If something is not good, you can learn it. What's so difficult? Not much to it. Be vigilant. After giving a lot of unreal examples, it is to make everyone vigilant. Stop playing fake. Playing fake will lead to death. Your store cannot give you life, your work cannot give you life, your children cannot give you life, your parents cannot give you life. Only God can give you life. Being a disciple is what God wants us to do. What's so difficult? With the character of dedicating your life to God, there is no impassable mountain. Even large and small mountains must be flattened. This is the disciple of Jesus Christ.

Let's sing a song and prepare to receive today's offering. If you do not understand the meaning of offering, please do not give. Because the church is not a place to offer money, the church is a place to offer life. Are you willing? If you are willing, sing a song with me called I Am Willing. If you do not understand the meaning of offering, please do not offer! Have you identified with Jesus? Follow God for life, giving up everything to follow God. This is a character trait. Unless you see through life and death, can you make such a decision. Unless you recognize that being a disciple has extremely rich rewards, you can make such a decision. If you can't let go, then don't let go. Really let go; this is a good choice.

At this time, everyone raise your hands with me to do a short prayer. I will say a sentence, and everyone repeat after me: God, I just want to be your disciple. I just want to love you above all else! God, I just want to give up everything for you. I will no longer be that little one; I want to be your disciple. God, may you accept my offering and be with me, so that I can preach the gospel, heal the sick, cast out demons, and not only that, but also really walk according to your word, in the name of Jesus Christ. Amen!

Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours, now and forever. Amen!

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大家好!今天跟大家分享一个题目,叫做:实在。这是华人命定的性格系列(6),这个性格里边要有实在的性格才行啊。你知道这性格实在和不实在,差别太大了! 要知道我是个东北人,我妈妈是个非常虚的人。哇!嘴巴说的可好听了,结果我们家在吃饭的时候,那个年代孩子能够吃饱饭就很厉害了。结果有一个邻居进来了,我妈就说:来来来,吃吧、吃吧。他完吃了,孩子就得饿着吧。那个年代,赚到钱不一定就够吃的。结果那个人就真的吃了,那我妈那么热情。结果呢?他吃了,那孩子肯定就没吃饱,就那么点饭啊。 结果那人一走,我妈就来了一句:真是不觉悟,让你吃你就真吃啊!你说这是什么话?我就很不喜欢这个,因为我觉得这样不实在。我给我妈提了好几次意见,我妈她听不进去呀,她习惯了,就喜欢玩虚的。如果你换到我这样的人,我就说:我们家的饭不够吃啊,你先坐在那看我们吃,以后别赶我们家吃饭时进来;你说不让你吃,我不好意思;我让你吃吧,孩子就吃不饱。你说我说这话有毛病吗?我说这话没毛病。大家还觉得东北人实在,其实不实在。

我们当中有个弟兄活得老惨了,那都是眼睛不能聚焦了,才来找我的,被人骗,做一个工作不行,做公司,公司还黄了,工资薪水低得不得了。后来他妈来了:哎呦,谢谢你呀,刘牧师啊,照顾我儿子啊。我的天呀,好像我是他儿子的救命恩人似的。然后她儿子在旁边说了:刘牧师,你别听我妈说的,在家里还抱怨呢。啊,我说:我知道。她是东北人,我妈也这样。 后来我信了主。信了主以后我就发现有很多奇怪的现象,让我产生了极大的困扰,我曾经带人查经做小组长。我们教会的牧师可有意思了,他在台底下还像个人,一上了台讲话,就拿腔做事的那种声音就出来了。后来我说:牧师啊,你在台下说话还像个人,为什么一上了台,说话就装腔作势的呢?他说:神学院训练的,不这样不能毕业。台上台下两种人,很多时候我就真的不习惯。 还有一个呢,大老远来的,我就开车去接他,带他去吃饭。那时我刚刚信主不久,可爱主了。人一来我就去接待,很喜欢付代价。我还以为接待大牌牧师,他会跟我讲点什么实实在在属灵的事呢,没有。请他们吃饭时,他们说话的时候台上台下不一样。哎呦,还好,我这人的耐性比较好,我不太喜欢跌倒。

从那个时候,我就开始说,如果将来我要做牧师,我要做一个台上台下一样的人。所以我今天特别感谢神,我做了一个台上台下一样的牧师。大家如果到我身边接触一下,就会觉得真是这样,这个牧师台上台下真的是一样。我常常说个笑话啥的,我的笑话说了好几遍了,也不觉得厌烦。说一说、笑一笑,挺舒服的,活着也不累呀。 在教会里遇到的这些事:主耶稣爱你,我也爱你。我说你算了吧,你咋爱我呀?卡住了。这不是装蒜吗?人家就说:你看你这人怎么这么不会说话。我说:我真的不太喜欢这个。凡接触过我的,人家大老远买机票考察我的时候,发现这小子真的挺有意思的。他管我叫这小子OK的。发现这小子挺有意思呀。他真是脸上没长毛、头上没长角,像个人啊。那是啊!我台上台下就这样,我整啥?有人说:牧师,你怎么还发烧了?那是呀,我是个罪人那。 我就是在这虚伪的基督教环境下长大的,我的家也是在虚伪的家庭里长大的,然后我也是在虚伪的教会里长大的。我跟你讲,我真的是下定决心,我要吃实实在在的这碗饭。为啥呢?不实在不好!比如有些人说:弟兄,我会为你祷告的。我说:行行行,你要为我祷告,现在就为我祷告。他说:不行啦,现在我有事。我说:这不是净扯淡,你扯淡真有两下子。我也知道,你回家也没为我祷告,等个把月过后,再见到他问:你有为我祷告吗?他说:为你祷告啥事来着?哎呦,啥事都忘了!

就这样,虚伪的教会成长起来的基督徒,却造就了我的一个心态:就是我要做一个实在的人。我从小就想做一个实在的人,我不想做一个虚伪的人。因为在我的心思意念当中,我有这么一个观念,因为虚伪的东西不合神的心意啊!我从来不会说:啊,弟兄,我为你祷告。我不玩这个。后来我打一个字,大家用whatsApp吗?一个聊天的工具,在聊天群里全是这个。弟兄:我爱你,愿神祝福你。全是这个,全是虚伪的东西。但是,这样的环境却造就了我的一个实实在在的牧师心态。我感谢神,我真的感谢神!不解决问题呀!不解决问题就是二分钱的茶壶就是个嘴好。 有一次,有个牧师我开车送他回家。他说:刘牧师,我心口疼,你能不能为我祷告?我说:好啊,为你祷告。我为他祷告,他就好了。他好了以后,回到他的教会里说:这个刘牧师是个超级灵恩派。我觉得这是什么脑子? 后来他跟我说:刘牧师,你做的这些事格局不够大。我说:咋就不够大了?他说:像你给人写写简历了、帮人家找工作了、训练人家面试了,你这格局不够大。我说:你那格局呢?他说:我这格局,回教世界、中东、中南半岛、中亚。我听了咋都是这,哎呦天哪,你那活儿咱干不了!我说:你怎么不去银河系传福音呢?你干脆把银河系都包了。算了吧,我看你那小样的,一身的病啊!我想,我这格局不够大,我最讨厌的就是那种虚假的格局。假大空,喊口号。不解决问题!

我这解决的:你得忧郁症的到我这肯定得医治;你要得了癌症了,到我这听了我的,你肯定得了医治。我真的服侍到吐血也要继续服侍,到现在我也没吐出血来。我一直在想,解决问题的教会才是实在的教会。那也是真付代价。直到今天人们还活在诸多的虚假当中啊。你是不是活在诸多的虚假当中,今天如果你发现了,你告诉我。我真的可以帮助你。 我发现这样的事特别多,我去一个地方,他们把我叫去了,开一个什么特会,我本来不喜欢参加这玩意。去了以后呢,我也是个牧师,他们也是个牧师,他们不好意思不跟我说呀:刘牧师,你也来上台服侍一下吧。第一天人家在那服侍,一祷告,拿那个麦克风“噗”的一下子,大家看见过吗?哗的倒在地上一片。有在地上乱蹦的,也有在地上静静躺着的。拿毛巾给盖上,怕跑光。我就觉得这挺好啊。然后,他说:刘牧师,你来服侍一下吧。我不喜欢整这个:摇旗、吹角、喊!我就说:有病的举一下手。好家伙,差不多都举起来了。我就说这事,那昨天你们都白躺了?躺着干啥来着? 后来我就为他们先解决腰椎、颈椎的问题。了解我的人都知道,我最喜欢先解决腰椎、颈椎这些毛病。我一整腰椎、颈椎,老大一堆很多的人。后来我发现基督徒病多,为啥?就是玩虚假的太多了。对,虚胖!然后我想这炸整啊?我就带了两个同工,病人这么多,我有点傻眼哪。我说咱们这么着吧,我带大家一起祷告,大家后面扶着前面的,排成队。一起抓住后背、抓住肩膀,他们和我祷告后好多了。后来我发现我在那服侍的时候整不完哪。

然后有一个牧师带来一个人,被龙的灵辖制的,精神病吧。说:我奉耶稣基督的名,忧郁症的灵精神病的灵出去!然后对我说:来,刘牧师,你来服侍他吧。我就来服侍他。就这样啊。我心想以后不和你们玩这些个。我就在想,教会很多,每一个主日都有一批人到台上倒一会儿,所以大家千万不要给我一个灵恩派,灵恩派就是那样的。我们教会查经绝对是第一流的,非常看重神的话;医治释放绝对是第一流的;解决问题绝对是第一流的。 结果躺下去的有我一个好朋友,每一个礼拜天都到教会躺下去,回到家里我看他也没什么变化,还是那个屌样。聚会后我们一起去喝茶,我就偷偷的弱弱的问他:我说你每个主日都上台去倒一下儿,我咋没看出变化来呢?他说:啥,我每一个礼拜上去躺一下,回来就可有精神了。我说,啊,原来躺一下精神去了,咋没得精神病呢?精神了,神经了就麻烦了。这种事很多很多,我一直不理解啊,很多事我都不理解。这种事我也不做。 有一个德国的一个姐妹,这个姐妹呢,她回老家,她妈是我服侍的,是肾癌。现在不知道还活着没活着,后来就离开了,我也不知道后来去了哪个教会了。我带着她妈祷告呢,她妈的肾癌好了很多。她妈还介绍了一个眼睛都快要瞎掉的,来到咱们当中,现在眼睛也好了。我这故事多呀,我要讲的不是那个眼睛要瞎的和她这个肾癌的。她女儿回到她妈那以后,看到我带着祷告,说:啊,刘牧师,能不能也带我祷告。我说:你啥病啊?她说:我偏头疼二十年了,从十几岁到三十几岁,二十年的偏头痛。我说那没问题,我就喜欢干这个,我喜欢解决问题。结果一祷告五分钟全好!

她的主任牧师夫妻我都认识。然后她跟我说:我能问你一个问题吗?我说你说吧。她说:我大大小小的医治布道会都去,然后很有恩膏的大牧师,为我祷告都没好,为什么你为我祷告五分钟就好了?我说:嗨,人家为你祷告你没好,人家扑噜扑噜屁股,拍拍手,拍拍你的肩膀,就溜了,人家就不管了。我说那鬼能走吗?我是只要你找我了,那就是包在我身上了,你不好我不放你走啊,鬼没赶出去我能放你走吗?啊,明白了。鬼一碰到我这样的人,牠不就倒霉吗?到我这来的全好,但是你得听我的话呀。 鬼没赶出去,我能放你走吗?啊?明白了!鬼一碰到我这样的人,你说牠不倒霉吗?人到我这里来,全好了,但是你得听我的话啊。你爱世界,我为你祷告;第二天,你又爱世界,然后爱世界,病又回来了,我又为你祷告;接着你又去爱世界,又去体贴肉体,啥时候是个头呀?没关系,反正只要你不放弃,我也不放弃,你看我这耐心!我就在想:如果是主耶稣在,主耶稣会怎样做?主耶稣也会照样这么做呀!我就是学主耶稣,我就是山寨版。 那她的主日牧师夫妻俩曾经跟我住在一个单元,参加一个特会。为啥要参加一个特会?我在人家的屋檐下,咱得去呀。其实我不喜欢参加这些玩意儿,为啥?我一直不明白参加这些玩意儿干啥?我也不整。我就想一个一个整,我也不想整几万人,站满了一个大体育场,然后怎么着似的,在那“呜啦呜啦”喊,然后收完钱,收完奉献就完事。我不想干那个,我就想解决问题。不是我夸耀啥,我真的是这么干。结果跟他住在一套房间里,我也不去参加,我虽然在那,然后我去参加三分之一的聚会,三分之二我在家里服侍。

我跟他是住在同一个单元里的,然后他就踉踉跄跄的回来了。我说咋回事?哎哟,这几天忘记参加特会了,也吃不下,睡不着,因为他老婆有忧郁症。主任牧师的太太有忧郁症,我这一祷告就好了。我说:过来,过来,我专门干这个。整完了,好了之后,他老公有二十年的腰椎。我说:过来,过来。人家觉得你也是牧师,我也是牧师,凭什么你来服侍我?但我有我的本事呀!结果好了,好了以后:哎哟,厉害! 我就在想:主耶稣肯定也这么干。什么唱诗歌、敬拜这些东西,我就不太喜欢整,也是因为咱唱歌唱不好嘛。弟兄姐妹,虚假的东西害死人啊!我以前是做IT电脑的,我也做客服,你要知道这种虚假的东西深受其害呀!有的人干活干不好,老板说:为什么这个报表还没出来?他们的电脑系统不好,屎盆子全扣我头上了。电脑系统不好,后来我就解决这些问题。其实跟电脑系统一点关系也没有,就喜欢甩锅。反正是大家都用电脑,都用网,我就成了收锅的地方了。人家甩,我就收,我累得屁股尿流的,所以我到今天痛恨这些玩意儿。我极其痛恨,我也理解他们,除了怪电脑、怪网络、怪我这个软件,他们实在找不到别的借口。哎哟,没关系!他甩锅,我卖锅。 很多在教会里头,牧师很忙,有听过这话吗?你什么时候听说我很忙?从来没听说。如果你听说我很忙,就是我搪塞一下。刘老师,你有时间服侍我吗?我说我很忙。完啦,我今天把底儿告诉大家了:就是你这事不重要,还有很多重要的事。为啥?我真的会把东西排,我真的不忙。忙是假像,忙啥呀?如果你来看我,你会发现我台上台下是一样的,然后真的会发现一件事——我不忙。你大老远买了一张机票到我这里来了,当然一般我也不大接待,我也不想整,整这东西干啥?你来拜大师就算了。但是一般咱们当中的同工、小牧者来了,我真的会服侍你呀!为啥?因为我不想做虚的,我就想解决问题。我还做客服呢,到今天我还做客服啊!前几天有个说:啊,我姐姐的旋风不好使啦!我就给你解决了?我解决得快呀,我做东西快,所以我不忙。

所以虚的东西就会以讹传讹。后来人们给这东西叫做曼德拉现象。大家听过曼德拉现象吗?曼德拉现象是啥意思呢?曼德拉还没死呢,很多人还以为他死了。曼德拉这个人哪,是上个世纪和这个世纪最伟大的一个人,把一个非常富有的南非,干成很贫穷的南非了。曼德拉没死,大家都以为他死了。他死了以后,大家都说:他不是早就死了吗?其实他刚死。 曼德拉效应,有这个医学名词。对了,有人把这个方面的专业知识发上来了,我念一下:指大众对历史的集体记忆与史实不符。主流科学界没有科学研究证明这一“效应”的真实性。就是以讹传讹,比如说西游记,大家就觉得80年代那个版本的西游记,就有这个下油锅这事儿。但是那个时候真没有下油锅那一集,大家都觉得有,就叫他们做曼德拉效应。 曼德拉效应就是以讹传讹,说着说着假的就成真了。但是工程师不是这样,工程师做出来,它能跑就能跑,不能跑就不能跑;做出来的飞机能飞就能飞,不能飞就不能飞;做出来的导弹好使就好使,不好使就是不好使,咱们就解决问题了。后来我发现曼德拉效应,**我给他换成我自己的曼德拉效应:做事很慢,做人很嘚,然后还拉垮,叫曼德拉**。曼德拉弄个借口,害人害己,记忆都错了。**做牧师最重要的就是要实在,做耶稣基督的门徒就是实在**。大家咋的?对我这个曼德拉解释不太满意是吧?没关系,他的曼德拉和我这个曼德拉不太一样,或者叫慢点儿拉。

今天我要讲的啥呢?就是讲实在这个事,实在这个事太重要了。人家说东北人实在,其实像我这样的东北人才实在。有人对这个“很嘚”听不明白,是吗?很嘚,就是这个人不靠谱,缺心眼。听这声音来,我说:你看你这么嘚,听起来好听吗?不好听。“很嘚”,你听起来就不好听,学习东北话。也就是说“很二”。今天来读经文,不要再“嘚”,不要再讲那个东北方言了。

神啊!今天就让我们做一个实实在在的门徒,祢怎么说,我们就怎么做;神啊!祢是信实的神,我们也要做一个信实的门徒;神啊!祢是一个将自己生命献给我们的神,今天我们也将生命献给祢;神啊!我们就要做你的门徒,因为我们这门徒,有人给那小子一杯水喝,他都要得赏赐,更何况我们这些门徒,岂不是要得更大的赏赐吗?神啊!今天就激励我们弟兄姐妹每一个人。每一个弟兄姐妹都渴望做一个实实在在的门徒。奉耶稣基督的名,阿们!

门徒的职分是相当实在的,天国的福音就是医治病人。我告诉你疾病绝对不是什么好东西,所以华人命定神学非常看着医病赶鬼,而且这医病的能力是白白得来的。在这个《马太福音》的第十章,那十二个门徒受了多少的训练?受了一丁点的训练,啥也不是!可是今天很多教会把医治释放弄到很高深,其实不是。做门徒才是高深的,做门徒才是难的,医治释放其实是个很简单的事。 在咱们教会一开始的时候,实际上华人命定神学还没有影儿的时候,那个时候我们整个教会还是很荒凉,还在识别善恶的里面挣扎的时候,医病赶鬼已经超越了很多很多人。我们做医治释放好些年前就是医病赶鬼的。为什么?不是因为我们做的够好,是因为我们奉耶稣基督的名赶鬼其实是个很粗浅的认识。医病赶鬼是个非常粗浅的,所以那个是白白得来的白白舍去。 我昨天听到有一个牧师很有意思,他去参加医治释放布道大会,做医治释放的那个牧师我也知道,因为咱们教会的会友好些是从他们那来的,是一个灵恩的牧师。结果这个灵恩的牧师他大老远去别的城市去参加,可以这个灵恩的牧师就到了自己的教会的那个地方,那个城市去参加,去做这个医治释放布道会。结果刚好做医治释放布道会的跟咱们当中的一个姐妹认识,就住在这个姐妹的家里,住那以后,这个姐妹就帮他组织这整个的医治释放布道会,结果那个去参加人家布道会的牧师,就是这个姐妹的牧师。很有意思!圈子很小,结果他参加人家的布道会回来他说了一句:我宁愿选择得罪人,我也不想得罪神,他不想参与。啥呀?就是怕周围的人,怕他的工作不保。

后来就常常有人问他:你要问问小心呐,这医治释放背后的灵是什么灵?很多人认为医治背后的灵到底是个什么灵?跟当年的法利赛人有什么两样?当时他们就说耶稣医治的能力从别西卜来的。那个时候的人就查这个,今天又很多人来查医治释放背后的灵是什么?这个人没问到我啊,他要问到我的话,这些福音派的牧师问到我的话,那我就会反问一句:你们这些不医治的背后是个什么灵?今天弟兄姐妹知不知道门徒的职分是一个非常实在的医病赶鬼,那不医病赶鬼背后是个什么灵?所以大家知道吗?就是“曼德拉”了,能说不能做。 所以今天弟兄姐妹能不能知道,你如果做耶稣基督的门徒,医病赶鬼的能力是肯定给你的。因为这是神让你做门徒的第一件事就是这一件事,如果你传天国的福音,不医病赶鬼你在传啥福音?这是最基本都工作。所以在华人命定神学的逻辑体系里头,医治释放是教会最基本的工作,不是什么高大上的工作。你如果把医治释放做成高大上的工作,那就麻烦了。那不是靠着你的能力,乃是靠着神的能力,实在吗?如果今天教会都能够读懂这个《马太福音》第十章,这不是实实在在的本分吗?是门徒当尽的本分,不是出去宣教,带人信主,传一个没有能力的福音,没有能力的福音有什么用呢?

腰袋里不要带金银铜钱。行路不要带口袋,不要带两件褂子,也不要带鞋和拐杖,因为工人得饮食是应当的。(《马太福音》10:9-10) 清楚了吗?所以今天弟兄姐妹读《圣经》难道不知道神会实实在在的供应吗?后来我就发现钱根本就不是问题,这个世界钱是非常属灵的事啊!你知道钱属灵到什么程度吗?就是你医病赶鬼的时候你会发现有钱进来,这是一个很神奇的事,大家千万别因为我说了这话,你就会觉得:哇,我得去医病赶鬼,因为刘牧师讲了医病赶鬼会有钱进来。你的目的就搞错了,目的不是为了赚钱。但是后来我发现赶鬼的教会,赶鬼得胜胜过鬼的,鬼会送钱来。你比如说:一个国家和另外一个国家打仗,结果那个打败了的国家要给战争赔偿,大家发现了没有?后来二次世界大战以后,日本要赔偿中国,德国要赔偿周围的那些国家,那是很天文数字的钱呐!所以战败的要给战胜的钱。

后来我就发现我赶完了鬼以后,那个鬼就老是说这一句话:我十二点给你送钱来,我赶着牛车赶着马车给你送钱来。我心想这鬼为什么总说这话呢?那送钱来挺好啊!这是咋回事我一直我也不太喜欢相信鬼话。但是后来发现,弟兄姐妹慢慢你去实践一下,每一次你能够把鬼从人身上赶出去,我告诉你,你会真的发现财务上蒙祝福,特别的神奇!所以做门徒多好啊!还用担心钱吗?根本不需要为生活挂虑,如果一个赶鬼的人能够在属灵的世界里头践踏魔鬼仇敌,你需要为钱挂虑吗?不需要。我告诉你最要命的就是被鬼打败,被鬼打败了然后就穷的叮当乱响。所以大家慢慢仔细去看。 有一个牧师花了好几百万在一个很荒僻的地方建了一个教会,他建的教会就是不赶鬼的教会,结果那几百万就打了水漂,最后血本无归啊!整天在那教会里祷告,祷告啥呢?“神啊,把人送来,神啊,把人送来。”你不赶鬼哪来的人?你不解决问题不做实实在在的事,神怎么可能实实在在的供应?你不做实事,神也给你玩虚的,你跟神玩虚的,神也跟你玩虚的。门徒的需要是实实在在神的供应。

“我差你们去,如同羊进入狼群,所以你们要灵巧像蛇,驯良像鸽子。(《马太福音》10:16) 这句话只有《马太福音》有,其他的福音书没写。那我想为什么要像蛇一样呢?你得知道蛇是怎么走路啊!蛇都是曲行的,蛇不是一根棍子往前走啊!都是弯曲的往前行。什么叫做灵巧像蛇?我告诉你你真的想解决问题没有直来直去的,你比如说我卖东西给你,大家有没有发现?有没有发现做销售的人得拐弯,大家听得懂吗?如果你说:你买吧!“我不买!”回头人家就走了,你卖不了,你做不了。 所以今天我得教大家,你要想解决人的问题你真的需要拐几个弯。你要想解决人的问题真的需要灵巧像蛇,因为你所争战的对象是魔鬼。你不够灵巧像蛇的话,你真的整不了。后来我发现过去这些年,我跟鬼赶来赶去跟鬼玩对话,我发现我的语言能力大涨。一般的人跟我整完了几句,他就被我整腼了。 大家有没有发现,我说话挺厉害的。怎么来的呢?就是跟鬼整出来的。比如鬼来跟我讲:你算了吧,其实你也不是喜欢服侍他,是不是?哇!这家伙厉害呀。其实我心里真的是不喜欢服侍这个人,真的很讨厌心里烦死了,这不是没事找事嘛。你要知道经常服侍的时候,真的是这种感觉呀。结果鬼知道我这种感觉,牠说:你也不喜欢服侍他。哇!这时你要是没有话说了,你就麻烦了。但是我老有话说。大家知道我经典的话吧:按着我自己的喜好,我不喜欢服侍。但是我按着神的话。今天你要出去!你要离开的我姐妹,离开的我弟兄。厉害吧?按着我的肉体的喜好我不喜欢,但是我不按着我的肉体走,我按着神的话走。实在,你要灵巧像蛇。

后来我发现咱们所有的弟兄姐妹,你要是做门徒你就要学会牧养,你如果爱神你就要学会牧养;你要做牧养,你就要灵巧像蛇。你的嘴巴就要厉害。你的嘴巴不厉害你干不了。你要知道很多时候人和鬼是不太分得开的。但是我能够看得出来,这是个鬼。后来凡是跟我过过招的,都知道我的话厉害呀,我的话里面带着权柄。跟我过过招的,发现他们都说不过我。为啥?我里头灵巧像蛇。我不是圣诞老人。《圣经》里头没有这么说:我差你们出去,如同羊进入狼群,所以你们要像圣诞老人。没有这话。你一上来我就“啪!”给你一点,就点死穴。 我想今天弟兄姐妹你要灵巧像蛇。本来今天主篇道我想讲:灵巧像蛇,后来我发现也只有《马太福音》这里讲了一次,我后来觉得好像是可以把它塞到这里来讲,还是讲实在比较好。第七点讲的实在要加上灵巧像蛇,不是傻乎乎的实在,听得懂吗?

门徒你如果看不透,你做不了门徒。你要实实在在的看透,不是虚假的看透,不是有的时候看透,有的时候看不透。 那杀身体不能杀灵魂的、不要怕他们.惟有能把身体和灵魂都灭在地狱里的、正要怕他。(《马太福音》10:28) 就是你们的头发、也都被数过了。所以不要惧怕.你们比许多麻雀还贵重。(《马太福音》10:30-31) 你能理解吗?大家有没有发现,一个实实在在的看透生死,和有的时候看透,有的时候看不透的,完全不是一个层次的。你如果实实在在看透生死以后,你就会发现:哇!什么东西来整你,你都不怕呀。没有东西能够整得了你。为啥?你死都不怕,你说谁能整得了你?不怕死的,鬼就怕他。这就是为什么在我赶鬼的时候,那些有恩膏的大牧师,做医治释放布道会这些,人家解决不了的问题,到了我这儿都能解决。只是遗憾的是啥呢,遗憾的是人习惯了不实在以后,遇到了一个实在的,不太相信。听明白了吗。突然间遇到了我就说:这个老师,他说他看透了生死,是啥呀?世上看透生死的哪有呀?他就来了这一句话。

要知道好些年前,有一个牧师的老婆得了癌症。那大家都说:为她祷告吧。然后我就说我服侍癌症患者,我可有本事了。我特别厉害,我专门整这个。然后我说,那你需要我服侍吗?需要我服侍的话,这是我的电话,随时可以打给我。人家来了一句话,大家能体会到那味道吗:谢谢你。啥意思?意思就是算了吧,听得出来吗?谢谢你,算了吧。我怎么就没看见世上有这么服侍的呢?我过去都是应付一下,现在还来了一个玩假的,玩得这么邪乎的。算了吧,不用啦,被拒绝了。 后来她死了。抗癌五年,死了以后躺在棺材里头,刚好是我朋友主持葬礼。我就后来带着我的同工去参加一下葬礼,看一下那玩意是咋干的。这回真的不用我祷告了。为啥?人们都已经习惯做曼德拉效应了。大家都已经虚假的习惯了彼些说:主耶稣爱你。忽然间遇到了一个像我这样实在的。就给我来了句:算了吧。不习惯。以为我是忽悠的,以为我是图他啥的。你说我能图他啥?

做门徒家人一定会实实在在的拦阻你。你想想看,你的家人想过小日子,你想做耶稣基督的门徒,你说这事咋整?你想把你的生命献给神,你的家人想让你的生命献给他。大家有没有发现,你一旦开始爱耶稣,你老公过来了:咋的?你爱耶稣比爱我更多呀?你说你到底是爱我,还是爱耶稣?你说:我爱耶稣。你说这日子咋过?不好整啊。除非你灵巧像蛇,篇点故事像我似的,把他的话给赛住。 你们不要想我来、是叫地上太平.我来、并不是叫地上太平、乃是叫地上动刀兵。 因为我来、是叫人与父亲生疏、女儿与母亲生疏、媳妇与婆婆生疏.人的仇敌、就是自己家里的人。爱父母过于爱我的、不配作我的门徒、爱儿女过于爱我的、不配作我的门徒。不背着他的十字架跟从我的、也不配作我的门徒。(《马太福音》10:34-38)

这话讲得,这标准谁能达到呀?这标准哪,但是又有什么了不起?我就这样。活着就变成了一个很简单的事。所以大家要知道你做门徒,你会遇到实实在在的拦阻,你到底是有这个性格,还是没有这人性格?你到底是妥协,还是要坚持下去?这事我跟你讲就是很有意思。我就觉得有很多基督徒,在一个不冷又不热的教会做一个基督徒,家里没有人反对。等你一刚强了一把说:我要做耶稣基督的门徒,完了。那你要是没有一点灵巧像蛇的本事,你真的整不过去,不好整呀。 所以大家要知道,不管我们编这个故事,那个故事,你骨子里得要做一个性格,就是今天我要做耶稣基督的门徒,别拦我。你也拦不起。所以大家要想做耶稣基督的门徒,你要刚强起来。你不能够再吃软饭,你整天吃软饭的,你怎么刚强?所以今天大家开始重新打造自己,打造自己那也是实实在在的事,开始实实在在的做工,不再吃软饭,开始实实在在的养活自己,不但能够养活自己,还能够供养自己的家人。那你就厉害了。 弟兄姐妹要知道那是一场争战,做耶稣基督的门徒不容易。那是一场争战就是这么练出来的。我告诉你,我里面有这种性格。我要想做耶稣基督的门徒,别拦我。你跟耶稣没法比。我爱你?我还是要爱我的耶稣。我爱我的主,我要做耶稣基督的门徒。我要得永恒里的奖赏,我就是这么走过来的。谁也别想拦着我,这是我的底线。让我打扫厕所没问题,收拾家也没问题。就是家务我全包了,也没问题。但是做耶稣基督的门徒,你没办法拦着我。服侍那些癌症患者,付代价,没有人能够拦得住我。医病赶鬼这是我最基本的工作。

将自己献给神,那是一种性格。 得着生命的、将要失丧生命。为我失丧生命的、将要得着生命。(《马太福音》10:39) 你能听得懂这句话吗?如果你能够听得懂这句话,你就可以做耶稣基督的门徒了。将自己的命献上,得着生命的、将要为主失丧生命。为主失丧生命的、将要得着生命。这就是很多人疾病的根源。疾病的根源是因为赶不了鬼,所以鬼就来欺负你。所以你要开始为主耶稣摆上生命,开始做一个医病赶鬼的门徒,鬼在你面前都被你打趴下。不但你自己身上的鬼你可以打趴下,你服侍的人身上的鬼也被你打趴下。我想做门徒,那给小子一杯水喝的都会得福,都会因着你这个门徒得福。 人接待你们、就是接待我.接待我、就是接待那差我来的。人因为先知的名接待先知、必得先知所得的赏赐、人因为义人的名接待义人、必得义人所得的赏赐。无论何人、因为门徒的名、只把一杯凉水给这小子里的一个喝、我实在告诉你们、这人不能不得赏赐。(《马太福音》10:40-42) 不要做那个小子,也不要做那个给一杯水的,要做那个门徒!这是神的意思。别把这事整反了。整反了可就麻烦了。门徒带了一个小子,然后又有一个人给那小子一杯水。然后他要得赏赐。是因着门徒的名,那个门徒是应该得什么赏赐呢?做门徒什么好处都不缺,这是一种性格。好不好,今天大家开始跟神玩实在的,我们神是信实的。神是个灵,所以你们要用心灵的诚实来侍奉祂。不再喊口号,也不再传一个虚假的、毫无能力的福音。今天开始做实事,就是要解决问题。你学习不好,把学习搞好它,实实在在的。工作做得不行,把工作做好它。工程技术的能力,不会工程技术的思考方式,就学习工程技术的思考方式,解决问题。然后实实在在的把你周围的那些小子服侍好。讲了一大堆不实在的例子,我想做一个总结。

什么不行可以学。有什么难的?没多少东西。要警醒,讲了一大堆不实在的例子,就是要大家警醒。不再玩假的,玩假的那是要死人的。你的店是不能够给你生命的,你的工作是不能够给你生命的,你的孩子是不能够给你生命的,你的父母不能够给你生命的。只有神能够给你生命,做门徒那才是神要我们做的,有什么难的?有了将生命献给神的性格,就没有过不去的火焰山,就算是大山小山都要给它铲平,这就是耶稣基督的门徒。 我们唱一首诗歌,准备收今天的奉献。如果你不明白奉献的意义,请你不要奉献。因为教会不是奉献钱,教会是奉献生命的地方。愿意吗?愿意的话跟我唱一首诗歌叫做《我愿意》。如果你不明白奉献的意义,请你不要奉献!你是否认定了耶稣?一生随神,抛下一切跟随神。这是一种性格,除非你看透人生人死,你才能够做这样的决定。除非你认定做门徒回报极其丰厚,你才能够做这样的决定。你如果放不下,你就放不下吧。实实在在的放下,这是一个美好的选择。 这个时候大家举起手来,跟我做一个简短的祷告,我讲一句大家跟我重复一句:神哪,我就是要做你的门徒。我就是要爱你超过一切!神哪,我就是要为了你放下一切。我不再做那个小子,我要做你的门徒。神哪,愿你悦纳我的奉献,与我同在,让我能够传福音,医病赶鬼,不但如此,也实实在在的照着你话去行,奉耶稣基督的名。阿们! 我们在天上的父,愿人都尊你的名为圣,愿你的国降临,愿你的旨意行在地上如同行在天上,我们日用的饮食,今日赐给我们,免我们的债,如同我们免了人的债,不叫我们遇见试探,救我们脱离凶恶,因为国度、权柄、荣耀全是你的,直到永远,阿们!
希望
And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward. (Matthew 10:42) Teacher, could the little ones here possibly refer to the disciples themselves? Jesus Christ often referred to the disciples as little ones. Giving water to the disciples in the name of a disciple will be rewarded. This also makes sense and speaks to the importance of the name of the disciples.