Mingding Doctrine
Recommended\Comments
Mingding Doctrine 关闭
【Bible Study】Job Chapters 32-37 - Elihu and Job's Understanding of God! (Part 2)

2015-10-24 15,276 Job

Part 2: Job's Misconceptions About God

We often encounter Christians who have been believers for many years, yet their spiritual lives remain weak. Do you aspire to be a resounding Christian? Are you truly willing to lay down your life for God? When your work conflicts with serving God, would you forsake your job to serve Him? Today, let Pastor Liu guide us in making such choices, in becoming a resounding Christian!

Questions for Reflection

What are the aspects of Elihu's understanding of God?

How does God manifest His mighty glory through us?

When faced with circumstances and temptations, do you perceive it as God attacking you?

First Perception: The Nature of God

Elihu spoke the truth, and I believe he was delivering a pronouncement on behalf of God. To make people understand what kind of God He is. God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16). Who among us dares to pound our chest and say: God, I thank you, I am willing to lay down my life for you.

Are you truly willing to lay down your life for God? When your work conflicts with serving God, wouldn't it be good to take a break from your work and rest? I once put it down, and after putting it down, God bestowed honor and dignity upon me, raising me up step by step.

There was a sister who came among us, but later could not agree, left the church and went back to the workplace, and then returned to us again because she received a warning letter that her job would be gone in 60 days. After returning for a few days, her job slightly turned around and she left the church again. She treated her job as if it were her life, and she has been fired a few days ago.

If you can protect your job by relying on your own abilities, then go ahead and do it. But as for me, I absolutely do not rely on myself; I rely on the God who loves me. Since He gave me Jesus Christ, His only begotten Son, will He not also give me all things? If I do not hold onto God, what else should I grasp? In fact, I am well-qualified to grasp onto work, but I know that is not my path because my answers are all within God.

When Elihu spoke these words, God, in their deepest slumber, opened their ears with visions, told them in their dreams, and sealed instruction to them, to turn them aside from their deeds and conceal pride from them; He keeps back their souls from the pit, their lives from perishing by the sword. (Job 33:16-18)

In the Old Testament, God did not want Old Eli to be sentenced to death, warning him again and again to turn back to God. God also warned Saul again and again, but they were unwilling to turn back, walking in their own schemes.

Today, in our church, there are still many people who want to walk in their own schemes. He told me a lot, but I didn't hear a word from Bible, all his own schemes. You are going to jump into a pit. God will not stop you, but the choice is yours and mine. This is Elihu's first understanding of God.

Second Perception: God Redeems My Soul from the Pit, and My Life Shall See the Light

God performs all these things twice, in fact, three times, with mankind, to turn back their souls from the pit, that they may be enlightened with the light of life. Today we must know that God is the God who redeems us. God wants to redeem us from the pit, and He does such things to people countless times.

A sinner, no matter when he turns back to God, God will accept him again. Although the Bible speaks harshly: If it is such a person, there is no chance of repenting again. In fact, it is said very harshly. But I think, as long as this person truly repents and turns back to God again, God will still accept him because God saves people.

So let us carefully consider, do we treat God's redemption as a rag or a treasure? You and I were originally hopeless people, with no hope at all, living and dying. What you brag about in the world is nothing more than toil and trouble. Thank God for those who have not gotten cancer, but no matter what kind of disease is enough to suffer!

What can we boast of in this world? Do you really know your future? You don’t even know if you will see the early sun tomorrow, what are you boasting about? What are you planning for? You don’t have the final say on when you will die, so what do you have any say in? What good does it do to cling tightly to your work? Some people say: Pastor doesn’t understand me. Do you think I can understand you? I tell you that God doesn’t understand you either. It is you who do not understand yourself.

Today I will tell you a heartfelt word, your work, cannot save you from the grave. So when someone told me something, I told him: Do you know the truth of the spiritual world? He said I know. Then why are you still saying these nonsense? There are not many people among us who do not know a single thing about the spiritual world. More or less, you have seen the truth of the spiritual world, haven’t you? Don’t think there are no such things.

The couple who came among us last Sunday, the man called me, his mother-in-law had liver cancer and had only two months to live. Recently, his mother-in-law often saw beings from hell. It turns out that what we Chinese people say about beings from hell is not fake.

Do you know what the bull-headed, horse-faced beings mean? That is the spirit of death, he asked me why his mother-in-law always saw bull-headed and horse-faced beings and what should he do? The spirit of hell has come to arrest your mother-in-law, what should you do? Fight a war and defeat this spirit of death. But in this world, God has overcome the grave, hell, and the spirit of death, and has put this authority in your hands. Do we really cherish such authority to use it?

Among us, I believe you must know how precious this authority is. I am very moved that a person who has experienced God does not regard Him as a treasure, but often insults God. If I live in this generation, when I was young, I could return to China and have the opportunity to continue attending meetings. I tell you I would not miss a single one.

Isn’t it good to develop such a character? Know God, God’s redemption, save us from the grave, hell, death, save people’s souls from the pit and from hell, and then enlighten people to become living people with spirit, what a precious thing this is! But many people do not value it. I think what Elihu said is so good.

God Is Never A God Who Does Evil

When we read Genesis, we often have some non-believers who come among us to study the Bible. God is too cruel, how can he just destroy Sodom like that. I listened to him and said: Friend, if you and I were judges, how would you judge? He asked me to tell him what happened in this place.

I said, there are two places, anyone who passes through this land, from the age of 1 to 70, anyone who comes in as long as they pass by this place will be raped. And all the men, women and children in the city will do this until the person is killed. I ask you, if that person is your family member, how would you judge this city? He said yes. They are sentenced to death!

Today, if we hear about some countries on the Internet that often gang rape children, you would find it hard to accept, right? If you are someone who accepts it, do you still have some justice and conscience? What does God say? Even if there are fifty, forty, or thirty good people in this place, I will not destroy this city for the sake of these good people. God will never do evil.

Today, when we see things that we don’t understand, we just say we don’t understand. Don’t judge God. We think that judging God can be forgiven, but in fact it cannot be forgiven, because we do not know God. God gave us his only begotten Son, will he not also give us all things? We don’t even treat him as precious.

God is in heaven, seeing people trapped in sin, and God’s Spirit cannot rest. God is extremely sad. In the days of Noah, God said I regret making people on earth. Do you know how hurt God felt at that time?

Today, there are also some brothers and sisters among us. In fact, I think if everyone really understands your pastor, I don’t want to care about what your pastor has invested in you, because it all comes from God, but if what I have invested in you is regarded as a restraint. If it is regarded as corruption, in fact, I still have pain in my heart, but my healing ability is faster, and I don’t care too much.

When I returned to Taipei this time, I declined time and time again. I said that when I arrived at the airport, I would just take a taxi to the meeting place. There was no need to trouble anyone, but they insisted on sending a car to pick me up. I was very surprised. When I returned to Singapore, I told him that I would just take a taxi, but a pastor had to drive me and personally send me back to the airport. I am very grateful. I will not treat such love as a restraint, but as an encouragement. I will continue to manifest God’s glory and inherit the Mingding Destiny of Lingliang Church in Singapore, because I believe this is God’s Mingding Destiny in me.

God Doesn't Lack You and Me

I will reply to you and your friends. Look up at the sky and gaze at the clouds high above you. If you sin, how does it affect God? If your transgressions increase, how does it harm Him? If you are righteous, what do you give to Him? What does He receive from your hand? Your wickedness only affects humans like yourself, and your righteousness benefits others. (Job 35:4-8)

This part talks about Elihu's understanding of God: if you practice righteousness, God will not have more; if you are trapped in sin, God will not lack anything. God will not have more or less because of what you do. God is the self-existent God, He is the God who does not lack anything, we must not overestimate ourselves. We say with a grateful heart: God, we thank you for saving me from all darkness. I come before you, I cannot add anything to you, but I know that you love me, and you long for me to turn to you and receive benefits in your presence.

If you think about it carefully, you will know that the earth is like a speck of dust in the universe. People on earth are a speck of dust on earth. God owns all things in the universe. We are enjoying such grace in His presence. It is only because He loves us and hopes that we will be saved. As for what we choose, don’t overestimate yourself. God does not have more or less of.

Elihu's understanding of God: As for whether there is one more Job or one less Job in the sky, what is the big deal?, it’s just that God longs to be glorified because of us. He longs to share His glory with us and give us benefits. So when Paul wrote the Pauline epistles, he said that I want more people to share the benefits of this gospel. If you come forward with a purpose, that is to come to God and get benefits. I tell you that is the right idea, not God, what can I do for you, of course it is good that you have such a heart, as God has already done everything in you.

Today you must know that You and I are works of art in God's hands. But are we willing to let God carve us and make us vessels that manifest His glory? Or do we let our own nature do what we want and become tools for the devil to manifest the powers of darkness?

So today, I hope our brothers and sisters all know that We need God, not God needs us. God just doesn't want us to perish because He loves us. God is very upset when we perish, because He loves us very much.

Seeing the people he created, entering hell, that is no joke. Today, if someone among us enters hell and walks around, he will never want to go to that place again. He will run this heavenly road no matter what. If you don’t know the seriousness of this problem, and still think you can give God something, as if you want to give God some face to trust Him, then you are wrong. God does not have more of us, nor does He have less of us. Because He Himself is the self-existent God, He Himself is an abundant God. He is so abundant to the point that He wants to give His abundance to us. This is Elihu's understanding of God.

God Honors You and Me

God is mighty, yet He does not despise anyone; His wisdom is profound. (Job 36:5)

Do you know how good our God is? God is mighty, and even though we are like a speck of dust, He does not despise us. Do you know what honor this is? God respects you and I very much. He has complete omnipotence to deprive you of all free will, but He respects you and never despises you. He sees us as treasures.

So there is a passage in the New Testament that says: The kingdom of heaven is like a man who seeks treasures, and then finds a treasure, and then he buries the treasure in the ground, and then sells all that he has and buys the land. In order to get that treasure in his land. Then many people think that we buried the treasure, but after thinking about it carefully, it turns out that God buried the treasure.

He spares no effort to buy the treasure in the ground, it turns out that you and I are the treasure. You must know that people with faith are considered treasures in the eyes of God. How precious is he? He does not despise anyone, his wisdom is vast, he does not protect the lives of the wicked, but he vindicates the afflicted. He always cares for the righteous, so that the righteous may sit on the throne with the king and be exalted forever.

It was God's will to save us from the dust. If we have such faith in us, He will cause us to sit on His throne. Heavens! If there is someone who does not want such grace, I would say that this is the biggest fool in the world, who does not know how to enjoy the honor of a king, and does not know that you and I are a royal priesthood.

So if you have the opportunity in the future, when you go out to preach the gospel, you must carry the image of a royal priest. I must tell everyone today. Money is like underworld money, it really doesn’t have much use. If we don’t know that we can sit on the throne with the King and God, we will have lived in vain as Christians.

I think I am looking forward to that day. I don’t know if I will get it, but I will forget what is behind and strive forward, running towards such a goal, and then receiving a reward from God’s hand. He exalts us not for a day or two, one day He will take you down. He wants to exalt you forever in the future because you can live a victorious Christian life on earth. You think what grace this is, so I think we today can only fully understand what is written in the Bible until we see the Lord.

But I feel particularly good after reading these words. I was originally a piece of dust, but God does not despise me, and He has prepared the grace of a royal priesthood for me, so that I can sit on the throne with Him in the future. If we despise our position today and value your work more than valuing God, and value money more than valuing God, then some of us are indeed, I think this theory of drumstick steamed bun may still have a market. But what I want to tell you is that the theory is not drumstick, it is king.

God's Power Transcends Our Reason

God is vast; we cannot fully know Him; His years cannot be numbered. (Job 36:26)

What is this part talking about? I tell you that God’s power transcends our reason. God is great, how great? We cannot fully know. So when we enter this spiritual world and begin to have a little understanding of God, I tell you that what you understand is not even a drop of seawater.

If you are only satisfied with this and give up constantly pursuing to know God, how foolish is that? If you get a drop of what you know in the ocean of God, it has already left you nowhere to go. If people get this little bit and start to be satisfied with the status quo, I tell you that this is considered foolish in God’s eyes.

How great God is, completely beyond our imagination. Someone said what are we going to do in heaven? I tell you that knowing God is an eternal thing. We can never imprison the path to knowing God. That is to say, in the wonders of God, we only know a little bit, and we only know a little bit of the wonders of knowing God. If we are a foolish person today, we begin to put down God’s revelation and no longer know God, and think that the work you do is everything in your life. It is very foolish in God’s eyes.

You know, the work God does is so wonderful, like rain, thunder and lightning, and even some things, He wants to use the sound of His thunder to reveal His deeds. I tell you that when a storm comes, animals know it, but people don’t know it. Don’t you think it’s strange? Don’t think that people know more than animals. You know that recently, rats have been walking on the streets of New York. They exaggerate that New York has been controlled by rats.

You need to know about the environment we live in. If animals start to be a little weird, you must know that something big will happen. You have to prepare well, so when God is doing these things, animals know it first and people know it later. People have to learn from animals. Don’t you think it’s amazing? Actually, it’s not to learn from animals, but to fear God. God wants to humiliate people and humiliate our scientists. I tell you that animals know things before our scientists do. Don’t you think it’s very strange?

In 1976, the Tangshan earthquake was recorded later. On that day, all the animals in the city and countryside were weird. For example, ducks that could not fly flew to the walls, and rats scurried everywhere. Strange things happened, but people didn’t know what was going to happen. Then there was a big earthquake at night, killing hundreds of thousands of people. People are too small, God is too great, completely beyond what you and I can imagine.

I give everyone encouragement today. Encourage everyone to study and pursue knowing God. Never let God one day declare to you: You must not enter my rest, and then cut off the relationship with people. We have no way to enter God's presence again. Aren’t the Israelites who died in the wilderness our example? Aren’t the Israelites who died in the wilderness the lessons we need to learn? Why do we still walk this stiff-hearted path today? I tell you, God's heart must be broken. God broke His own Son Jesus Christ for us, but people don’t treat it as precious.

Today, a sister came to the church in the morning. I heard her testimony. I am very grateful. I said, God, you are so amazing. You often exalt those who honor you, and you cause those who honor you to receive honor. After graduating from school, this sister originally didn’t want to be a teacher because she was afraid of standing on the stage. But today she became a teacher. After she became a teacher, the company filmed her lectures as a sample and sent them to the headquarters to compete with all other branches. May God grant her grace so that her lectures can win prizes and become a very beautiful resume for her, so that she can get a highlight in her resume. I don’t think this is our ability. What ability do we have? This is God’s grace. This is God’s favor.

Later, she also shared with me that all the teachers who had cooperated with her had a mutual evaluation by teammates. Her mutual evaluation by teammates was the highest score. I told this sister not to think that it was our ability. It was God who manifested His favor in us. Do you know why this is the case? One day, she started to come to our prayer meeting from 10:30 in the morning to the afternoon every Friday. There is a prayer meeting, she would come.

I thought we would have chores such as washing clothes, cleaning, buying things, and tidying up. We can do these things, but she took this time out to consecrate it. You honor God, and God will honor you. In the past years, I tell you, I have made up my mind. I am standing here as a pastor today, not because of anything else, but because I really want to be a pastor. I really want to serve my God, because serving my God is my life. He is not optional.

When I was working as Chief Information Officer (CIO), I thought I could have a reason to treat my work as God. But I treat serving God as my life, although I didn’t know how to build a church at first, but my motivation has never been wrong. I want to serve my God, because my God is the source of my life. I think such words need to be worthy of your consideration.

God Has Loving-Kindness, But Also Disciplines

He causes it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for kindness. (Job 37:13)

Elihu had a wonderful grace in his understanding of God, clearly describing both God's discipline and loving-kindness. It's not that God only disciplines and doesn't care about anything else, nor is it that God loves so much that He is indiscriminate. He has both discipline and loving-kindness. In any case, He wants people to gain life. Through both discipline and loving-kindness, He can always draw some people into His kingdom.

This is really worth our consideration. Some people say that God is love, loving to the point of being indiscriminate. Others say that God is strict, forgetting that God is a God of loving-kindness. So today, we must have a correct understanding of God. I think Elihu's words about his understanding of God are endorsed by God. That's why God does not rebuke Elihu. What he said is completely different in tone from the previous three friends.

Choose to Believe

Pay attention, Job, and listen to this; stop and consider God’s wonders. (Job 37:14)

God's wonders are beyond our knowledge. What is behind this unknowable aspect? It is actually faith because we cannot fully know, so we believe. When we believe, we simplify the complex mysteries of God all at once, because we choose to believe. When we choose to walk the path of faith, we are righteous. God considers you righteous. How wonderful!

Job always wanted to know what exactly happened. In fact, God never told him about His bet with Satan. Job never knew. And Elihu, can you know these things? These mysteries belong to the Lord. As for God's love towards us, we must also come forward by faith to receive God's loving-kindness, isn't it?

If we know that God is loving-kindness, that is enough. You can receive loving-kindness through faith. Isn't the testimony I just shared with you a testimony of God's loving-kindness? When I joined my first real job, I worked for a year. Do you know what happened that year? My English was terrible. I didn't know if my English could communicate correctly with others. Many times, communication was like talking to a brick wall. But at the end of the year, they selected me as the advanced worker, the best performance award of the entire company.

I tell you, when I went on stage, I stumbled over my words when I was asked to say a few words. I knew this was not my ability because God chose me and gave me such favor. Later, step by step, God raised me to the position of CIO. When I became the CIO, the people who won the award with me that day went on to become department leaders.

I think the more you want to know these phenomena, the better you take the ability to want to know these phenomena to know God. Knowing God is not difficult at all. What does the Bible say? If you want to seek to know God, the door will be opened to you when you knock, and you will find when you seek. Don't seek the knowledge of natural sciences, but seek the path of life. How clouds float in the sky, let them float in the sky.

But how I gain abundant life, that is what I seek. How I can know this God more. How to experience His miraculous deeds more. Then gain more power from His throne, and in this world, become a vessel to manifest His glory. And become a blessing to all nations and peoples on earth, that is what we should pursue. What we pursue is not a physical phenomenon or a chemical phenomenon. Of course, pursuing this is left to scientists to pursue. But we Christians, we must become people who manifest God's glorious vessels. This is what Elihu said.

He Does Not Regard Those Who Are Wise in Their Own Hearts

The Almighty is beyond our reach; he is exalted in power. In his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress. (Job 37:23)

How well said! It's like the last sentence of the Book of Ecclesiastes. He does not regard those who are wise in their own hearts. Today, if you think you are great, you are the one God does not regard. If you feel that God is my God, this is the center of my life, I want to live a God-centered life.

I will fear Him all my life, so I will follow Him all my life. He is my way, my life, my everything. If you have such an idea, follow Elihu and say, the Almighty is beyond our reach, he is exalted in power. In his justice and great righteousness, he does not oppress, so people fear him. This is the key.

You must fear God, if you do not fear God, what are the things you pursue? What is the use of these things you tell me? Today I tell you, an idea in my heart, may offend some people, but this is the true thought in my heart. Because in the past few days of the Taipei course, Pastor Zhou and his wife stood on the stage and began to tell our 120 full-time church pastors and co-workers again that building a church is like flying an airplane, we are going to the kingdom of heaven, all come up. Those who are not going to the kingdom of heaven, go down quickly. Because when he wants to go down halfway. You don't know whether to go down or not. Understand?

So today I saw a news report that said there was a drunk man who showed love to a flight attendant. As a result, the plane could not fly to its destination and returned to make a forced landing. If there is a drunk man in the church with a bomb on his body and we say we are going to fly to the kingdom of heaven. He said if you want to fly, I will pull this rope. Then we will perish together.

Do you want such people to come up? You don't want it, and I don't want it either. All of us who have the same mission, maybe you don't know what the mission is, but you have a heart in your heart, you want to come and know God more, we will come and know God more with you. If you say you want to leave, I will never keep you. I will never keep anyone who wants to leave.

You agree with my words, everyone has the same agreement, we will continue to walk this road. It's not that the pastor has no love, if you are willing, I will definitely love you, I will definitely love you to the end. But if you're pursuing things of the world, go ahead. As for me and our brothers and sisters, we must serve the Lord, because serving God is our life! Amen!

Elihu Has Several Understandings of Job

Reject the Wrong Idea That God Attacks Me

First, in chapter 33, verse 8, Elihu said, Surely, I have heard what you said; I heard the very words. What did Job say? I am pure and without transgression; I am innocent, and there is no iniquity in me. Yet he finds occasions against me; he counts me as his enemy; he puts my feet in the stocks; he watches all my paths. (Job 33:8-11). I ask you, are Elihu's words what Job said? If some of us recognize God in this way. You have gone the less correct path of Job.

Although Job said this during this process, what did he say later? I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you. This is not the result of not knowing God. At this time, Job actually did not know God. Job still likes to ask why this and why that. He wants to know a lot of things. At this time, Elihu did not take what Job said to evaluate, Elihu took what Job said that was not quite right to say something, so that we can understand where Job's problem lies.

Whether we are clean and innocent, or we have no sin. But we cannot say that God is looking for opportunities to attack me. God is looking for opportunities to attack you, God is playing with you. Is it fun? I don’t think God would do such a thing. Attack us and play with us. Not fun at all. I think today we need to learn one thing. Learn what kind of thing? God will not attack us, nor will he use us as a target, nor will he use us as an enemy. Although we don’t know what happened behind some things that happened to us.

Like the example of the pastor I just mentioned. We don't know what happened behind the scenes. But thank God, God is still in control of that pastor, didn't it turn around? After a seven-year very hard journey. But what does it matter? So if we feel that we are clean and innocent and then nothing will happen, this is not the case. God wants you to know Him more. So today I share an example with you.

Someone said, Lord, give me a heart of patience, and then another pastor didn't know what you were asking for? Then he said what am I asking for? He said tribulation produces perseverance; and perseverance, proven character; and proven character, hope. If you ask for endurance, there will inevitably be tribulation. We may not understand such things. God's work is too wonderful.

But we must never say that God you attack me, such an understanding is very problematic. You know if a person gets cancer, people will comfort the patient and say, thank God, all these things are allowed to happen by God, thank God, this is what God gave you. You know that the person who gets cancer will have the idea that God is attacking me after hearing this. Although we do not understand, even if we are in Job's situation now we do not understand. But in our hearts, whether to begin to reject a wrong idea, God attacks me.

God Is My Salvation

Let us discern for ourselves what is right; let us learn together what is good. (Job 34:4)

Second, in chapter 34, verse 5, do you think Job is right? I think the problems Elihu picks out are too insightful. He thought, I am righteous. So such things are allowed to happen to me. God takes away your justice. Is it going according to reason? It doesn't go according to reason. Even though I am right, I am considered a liar; even though I am innocent, my wound is incurable. Actually, I tell you, God is the God who heals us. If I haven't been healed yet, but I believe God will heal me.

So start to reject this wrong negative lie. Is he lying? Don't think that what you did in the past and then feel that you are righteous. You really can't talk about righteousness. When we know God later, if we think that God takes away my justice in Job's way, then he is not righteous. But he still thought he was righteous. Because of what? Because he felt that what he had done in the past was righteous. Although God did not pick on his reason. But that doesn't mean what Job said was right. But what Job said is actually problematic.

The problem Elihu picked out accurately pointed out Job's problem. Actually, Elihu didn't bring up other problems to say, then I think whether we can say the opposite today, God is my reason. God is my life. God is my truth. God is my way. Just affirm that God is my healing, God is my provider, God is my everything. God will never be deceitful, God will never do evil. God must be my salvation, forever, even though we experience some things.

But what does it matter? If this momentary light affliction can achieve an incomparable weight of glory. What's so great about it? With this attitude, despise all the difficulties we face. There's nothing great about it. Step on them all because God has prepared the best way for me! Amen! This is Job's second.

Do Not Be Rebellious Israelites

Job speaks without knowledge; his words lack insight. I wish Job were tested to the utmost because he answers like the wicked. To his sin he adds rebellion; among us he claps his hands in defiance and speaks so much against God. (Job 34:35-37)

I tell you if a person does not know God, he will say such things, instead of saying what Elihu said. Some of the things Job said were words of faith, we thank God; but some of them he was still entangled in some things. Today I encourage everyone, don't be like the wicked. Elihu said a word, I wish Job were tested to the utmost. This is true. If God tests you and me, sells us to Egypt as slaves, puts us in prison as prisoners, if we are like Job, Joseph will sit through the bottom of the prison forever and will never come out, and he will be tested to the utmost. Today you and I must learn to be victorious in God's tests.

The Israelites came out of Egypt, entered the wilderness, and crossed the Red Sea. As a result, they tempted God ten times and walked the path of unbelief. For example, there is no water in this place. If there is no water, complain, why is there no water, we might as well die in Egypt.

If you have a heart to die, what are you afraid of if there is no water? This person is very strange, and then Moses prayed to God, and God gave them water. Can you learn a lesson from giving them water? You should have learned a lesson. There can be water in this place, my God is too wonderful. What would you do next time you encounter no water? You would say that our three million Israelites pray together, our God will definitely give us water. And you also get water.

Three million Israelites, from big to small, complained there that we might as well die in Egypt. God gave them water again, but they still didn't learn a lesson. The third time there was no water again, and the water was bitter. They will never learn a lesson, they will never learn a lesson. As a result, God gave them this lesson of water three times and then judged them a paper, failed! Then give something else, also failed. In the end, they died in the wilderness.

Today, in God's trials, if God tests us, we must never answer God like the wicked would, then we will be tested to the utmost. What does it mean to be tested to the utmost? It means to die in the wilderness. Do you want to die in the wilderness or do you want to be victorious? It's so good to be victorious and enter the promised land. Do you understand? It's such a wonderful thing to gain a promise. If you don’t want it, I want it, I definitely want it. I think, no matter what kind of situation I encounter, I must be strong and courageous, and hold on to my faith. Never slight God, never speak evil words to God, and then add rebellion to sin, this is not a good person.

God Causes Those Who Love Him to Benefit

What profit is it to me? What do I gain by not sinning?(Job 35:3)

How does Job's fourth say it? He still doesn't understand how there can be no benefit in this victory. What profit is it to me? He likes to walk peacefully in the world. But I tell you, the way God has prepared for us. Is what a rich grace. Even if you encounter some trials and tests, what does it matter, they are all for our benefit. Look at what the Bible says, all things work together for good to those who love God.

But when it came to Job, it became what profit is it to me. If anything starts to thank God, this is my benefit. This is what God wants. Let all things work together for good, so that I can benefit. What good is it to me not to sin rather than to sin? Even the already sinful and unsinful are confused. Do you say you want life or not?

Do Not Speak False Words, Utter Words Without Knowledge

So Job opens his mouth with empty talk; without knowledge he multiplies words. (Job 35:16)

So Job opens his mouth with empty talk; without knowledge he multiplies words. If you study the Bible, don’t quote those false words as truth. If you don’t understand, don’t quote them. It’s better to quote what God said.

Open your mouth and say false words, and utter words without knowledge. If a person does not know God, he often speaks ignorant words. In serving brothers and sisters, I'm just embarrassed to say, but after listening to it, I can only say where is this word in the Bible. If this is not in the Bible, it is probably ignorance. Why do people have to walk this ignorant path? If you walk that ignorant path. Don't wake up yet, be obsessed and continue to run that ignorant road. May God have mercy.

Don't think that Job's opening his mouth with these false words is not a problem. It's just because God, let him experience such things, God is just merciful to him. In such a situation, saying false words, God also said forget it, I have suffered so much, just complain.

But do you and I recognize again, that Job, I think there is no more record of Job's story later, but God blessed Job doubly. If Job experiences the same thing again later, what would he do, it may not be a completely identical story, but he may experience another round of tests in his life.

But if he is someone who has heard of God, and now his eyes see God, I think Elihu's words, God's words, will be deeply imprinted in his mind. He no longer speaks false words, a person who does not know God is a very sad thing, this is the five aspects of Elihu's pointing out Job's problems.

Scripture:

Job 32:1 So these three men ceased to answer Job, because he was righteous in his own eyes.
Job 32:2 Then was kindled the wrath of Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite, of the kindred of Ram: against Job was his wrath kindled, because he justified himself rather than God.
Job 32:3 Also against his three friends was his wrath kindled, because they had found no answer, and yet had condemned Job.
Job 32:4 Now Elihu had waited till Job had spoken, because they were elder than he.
Job 32:5 When Elihu saw that there was no answer in the mouth of these three men, then his wrath was kindled.
Job 32:6 And Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite answered and said, I am young, and ye are very old; wherefore I was afraid, and durst not shew you mine opinion.
Job 32:7 I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom.
Job 32:8 But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding.
Job 32:9 Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.
Job 32:10 Therefore I said, Hearken to me; I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:11 Behold, I waited for your words; I gave ear to your reasonings, whilst ye searched out what to say.
Job 32:12 Yea, I attended unto you, and, behold, there was none of you that convinced Job, or that answered his words:
Job 32:13 Lest ye should say, We have found out wisdom: God thrusteth him down, not man.
Job 32:14 Now he hath not directed his words against me: neither will I answer him with your speeches.
Job 32:15 They were amazed, they answered no more: they left off speaking.
Job 32:16 When I had waited, (for they spake not, but stood still, and answered no more;)
Job 32:17 I said, I will answer also my part, I also will shew mine opinion.
Job 32:18 For I am full of matter, the spirit within me constraineth me.
Job 32:19 Behold, my belly is as wine which hath no vent; it is ready to burst like new bottles.
Job 32:20 I will speak, that I may be refreshed: I will open my lips and answer.
Job 32:21 Let me not, I pray you, accept any man's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man.
Job 32:22 For I know not to give flattering titles; in so doing my maker would soon destroy me.
Job 33:1 Wherefore, Job, I pray thee, hear my speeches, and hearken to all my words.
Job 33:2 Behold, now I have opened my mouth, my tongue hath spoken in my mouth.
Job 33:3 My words shall be of the uprightness of my heart: and my lips shall utter knowledge clearly.
Job 만의 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.
Job 33:5 If thou canst answer me, set thy words in order before me, stand up.
Job 33:6 Behold, I am according to thy wish in God's stead: I also am formed out of the clay.
Job 33:7 Behold, my terror shall not make thee afraid, neither shall my hand be heavy upon thee.
Job 33:8 Surely thou hast spoken in mine hearing, and I have heard the voice of thy words, saying,
Job 33:9 I am clean without transgression, I am innocent; neither is there iniquity in me.
Job 33:10 Behold, he findeth occasions against me, he counteth me for his enemy,
Job 33:11 He putteth my feet in the stocks, he marketh all my paths.
Job 33:12 Behold, in this thou art not just: I will answer thee, that God is greater than man.
Job 33:13 Why dost thou strive against him? for he giveth not account of any of his matters.
Job 33:14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
Job 33:15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
Job 33:16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,
Job 33:17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.
Job 33:18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.
Job 33:19 He is chastened also with pain upon his bed, and the multitude of his bones with strong pain:
Job 33:20 So that his life abhorreth bread, and his soul dainty meat.
Job 33:21 His flesh is consumed away, that it cannot be seen; and his bones that were not seen stick out.
Job 33:22 Yea, his soul draweth near unto the grave, and his life to the destroyers.
Job 33:23 If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness:
Job 33:24 Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.
Job 33:25 His flesh shall be fresher than a child's: he shall return to the days of his youth:
Job 33:26 He shall pray unto God, and he will be favourable unto him: and he shall see his face with joy: for he will render unto man his righteousness.
Job 33:27 He looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not;
Job 33:28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light.
Job 33:29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,
Job 33:30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.
Job 33:31 Mark well, O Job, hearken unto me: hold thy peace, and I will speak.
Job 33:32 If thou hast anything to say, answer me: speak, for I desire to justify thee.
Job 33:33 If not, hearken unto me: hold thy peace, and I shall teach thee wisdom.
Job 34:1 Furthermore Elihu answered and said,
Job 34:2 Hear my words, O ye wise men; and give ear unto me, ye that have knowledge.
Job 34:3 For the ear trieth words, as the mouth tasteth meat.
Job 34:4 Let us choose to us judgment: let us know among ourselves what is good.
Job 34:5 For Job hath said, I am righteous: and God hath taken away my judgment.
Job 34:6 Should I lie against my right? my wound is incurable without transgression.
Job 34:7 What man is like Job, who drinketh up scorning like water?
Job 34:8 Which goeth in company with the workers of iniquity, and walketh with wicked men.
Job 34:9 For he hath said, It profiteth a man nothing that he should delight himself with God.
Job 34:10 Therefore hearken unto me, ye men of understanding: far be it from God, that he should do wickedness; and from the Almighty, that he should commit iniquity.
Job 34:11 For the work of a man shall he render unto him, and cause every man to find according to his ways.
Job 34:12 Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.
Job 34:13 Who hath given him a charge over the earth? or who hath disposed the whole world?
Job 34:14 If he set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself his spirit and his breath;
Job 34:15 All flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.
Job 34:16 If now thou hast understanding, hear this: hearken to the voice of my words.
Job 34:17 Shall even he that hateth right govern? and wilt thou condemn him that is most just?
Job 34:18 Is it fit to say to a king, Thou art wicked? and to princes, Ye are ungodly?
Job 34:19 How much less to him that accepteth not the persons of princes, nor regardeth the rich more than the poor? for they are all the work of his hands.
Job 34:20 In a moment shall they die, and the people shall be troubled at midnight, and pass away: and the mighty shall be taken away without hand.
Job 34:21 For his eyes are upon the ways of man, and he seeth all his goings.
Job 34:22 There is no darkness, nor shadow of death, where the workers of iniquity may hide themselves.
Job 34:23 For he will not lay upon man more than right; that he should enter into judgment with God.
Job 34:24 He shall break in pieces mighty men without number, and set others in their stead.
Job 34:25 Therefore he knoweth their works, and he overturneth them in the night, so that they are destroyed.
Job 34:26 He striketh them as wicked men in the open sight of others;
Job 34:27 Because they turned back from him, and would not consider any of his ways:
Job 34:28 So that they cause the cry of the poor to come unto him, and he heareth the cry of the afflicted.
Job 34:29 When he giveth quietness, who then can make trouble? and when he hideth his face, who then can behold him? whether it be done against a nation, or against a man only:
Job 34:30 That the hypocrite reign not, lest the people be ensnared.
Job 34:31 Surely it is meet to be said unto God, I have borne chastisement, I will not offend any more:
Job 34:32 That which I see not teach thou me: if I have done iniquity, I will do no more.
Job 34:33 Should it be according to thy mind? he will recompense it, whether thou refuse, or whether thou choose; and not I: therefore speak what thou knowest.
Job 34:34 Let men of understanding tell me, and let a wise man hearken unto me.
Job 34:35 Job hath spoken without knowledge, and his words were without wisdom.
Job 34:36 My desire is that Job may be tried unto the end because of his answers for wicked men.
Job 34:37 For he addeth rebellion unto his sin, he clappeth his hands among us, and multiplieth his words against God.
Job 35:1 Elihu spake moreover, and said,
Job 35:2 Thinkest thou this to be right, that thou saidst, My righteousness is more than God's?
Job 35:3 For thou saidst, What advantage will it be unto thee? and, What profit shall I have, if I be cleansed from my sin?
Job 35:4 I will answer thee, and thy companions with thee.
Job 35:5 Look unto the heavens, and see; and behold the clouds which are higher than thou.
Job 35:6 If thou sinnest, what doest thou against him? or if thy transgressions be multiplied, what doest thou unto him?
Job 35:7 If thou be righteous, what givest thou him? or what receiveth he of thine hand?
Job 35:8 Thy wickedness may hurt a man as thou art; and thy righteousness may profit the son of man.
Job 35:9 By reason of the multitude of oppressions they make the oppressed to cry: they cry out by reason of the arm of the mighty.
Job 35:10 But none saith, Where is God my maker, who giveth songs in the night;
Job 35:11 Who teacheth us more than the beasts of the earth, and maketh us wiser than the fowls of heaven?
Job 35:12 There they cry, but none giveth answer, because of the pride of evil men.
Job 35:13 Surely God will not hear vanity, neither will the Almighty regard it.
Job 35:14 Although thou sayest thou shalt not see him, yet judgment is before him; therefore trust thou in him.
Job 35:15 But now, because it is not so, he hath visited in his anger; yet he knoweth it not in great extremity:
Job 35:16 Therefore doth Job open his mouth in vain; he multiplieth words without knowledge.
Job 36:1 Elihu also proceeded, and said,
Job 36:2 Suffer me a little, and I will shew thee that I have yet to speak on God's behalf.
Job 36:3 I will fetch my knowledge from afar, and will ascribe righteousness to my Maker.
Job 36:4 For truly my words shall not be false: he that is perfect in knowledge is with thee.
Job 36:5 Behold, God is mighty, and despiseth not any: he is mighty in strength and wisdom.
Job 36:6 He preserveth not the life of the wicked: but giveth right to the poor.
Job 36:7 He withdraweth not his eyes from the righteous: but with kings are they on the throne; yea, he doth establish them for ever, and they are exalted.
Job 36:8 And if they be bound in fetters, and be holden in cords of affliction;
Job 36:9 Then he sheweth them their work, and their transgressions that they have exceeded.
Job 36:10 He openeth also their ear to discipline, and commandeth that they return from iniquity.
Job 36:11 If they obey and serve him, they shall spend their days in prosperity, and their years in pleasures.
Job 36:12 But if they obey not, they shall perish by the sword, and they shall die without knowledge.
Job 36:13 But the hypocrites in heart heap up wrath: they cry not when he bindeth them.
Job 36:14 They die in youth, and their life is among the unclean.
Job 36:15 He delivereth the poor in his affliction, and openeth their ears in oppression.
Job 36:16 Even so would he have removed thee out of the strait into a broad place, where there is no straitness; and that which should be set on thy table should be full of fatness.
Job 36:17 But thou hast fulfilled the judgment of the wicked: judgment and justice take hold on thee.
Job 36:18 Because there is wrath, beware lest he take thee away with his stroke: then a great ransom cannot deliver thee.
Job 36:19 Will he esteem thy riches? no, not gold, nor all the forces of strength.
Job 36:20 Desire not the night, when people are cut off in their place.
Job 36:21 Take heed, regard not iniquity: for this hast thou chosen rather than affliction.
Job 36:22 Behold, God exalteth by his power: who teacheth like him?
Job 36:23 Who hath enjoined him his way? or who can say, Thou hast wrought iniquity?
Job 36:24 Remember that thou magnify his work, which men behold.
Job 36:25 Every man may see it; man may behold it afar off.
Job 36:26 Behold, God is great, and we know him not, neither can the number of his years be searched out.
Job 36:27 For he maketh small the drops of water: they pour down rain according to the vapour thereof:
Job 36:28 Which the clouds do drop and distill upon man abundantly.
Job 36:29 Also can any understand the spreadings of the clouds, or the noise of his tabernacle?
Job 36:30 Behold, he spreadeth his light upon it, and covereth the bottom of the sea.
Job 36:31 For by them judgeth he the people; he giveth meat in abundance.
Job 36:32 With clouds he covereth the light; and commandeth it not to shine by the cloud that cometh betwixt.
Job 36:33 The noise thereof sheweth concerning it, the cattle also concerning the vapour.
Job 37:1 At this also my heart trembleth, and is moved out of his place.
Job 37:2 Hear attentively the noise of his voice, and the sound that goeth out of his mouth.
Job 37:3 He directeth it under the whole heaven, and his lightning unto the ends of the earth.
Job 37:4 After it a voice roareth: he thundereth with the voice of his excellency; and he will not stay them when his voice is heard.
Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.
Job 37:6 For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.
Job 37:7 He sealeth up the hand of every man; that all men may know his work.
Job 37:8 Then the beasts go into dens, and remain in their places.
Job 37:9 Out of the south cometh the whirlwind: and cold out of the north.
Job 37:10 By the breath of God frost is given: and the breadth of the waters is straitened.
Job 37:11 Also by watering he wearieth the thick cloud: he scattereth his bright cloud:
Job 37:12 And it is turned round about by his counsels: that they may do whatsoever he commandeth them upon the face of the world in the earth.
Job 37:13 He causeth it to come, whether for correction, or for his land, or for mercy.
Job 37:14 Hearken unto this, O Job: stand still, and consider the wondrous works of God.
Job 37:15 Dost thou know when God disposed them, and caused the light of his cloud to shine?
Job 37:16 Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
Job 37:17 How thy garments are warm, when he quieteth the earth by the south wind?
Job 37:18 Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass?
Job 37:19 Teach us what we shall say unto him; for we cannot order our speech by reason of darkness.
Job 37:20 Shall it be told him that I speak? if a man speak, surely he shall be swallowed up.
Job 37:21 And now men see not the bright light which is in the clouds: but the wind passeth, and cleanseth them.
Job 37:22 Fair weather cometh out of the north: with God is terrible majesty.
Job 37:23 Touching the Almighty, we cannot find him out: he is excellent in power, and in judgment, and in plenty of justice: he will not afflict.
Job 37:24 Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any that are wise of heart.

Recommended for You
Close

第二部分:约伯对神的错误认识 **我们经常会遇到信主很多年的基督徒,但是他的灵命真的很弱小。那么你是否要做一个响当当的基督徒?你是否真的愿意为神把你的命摆上?当你的工作和服侍神发生冲突,你是否会放弃工作来服侍神?今天,就让刘牧师来带领我们如何做这样的选择,如何去做一个响当当的基督徒!** **思考问题** **以利户对神的认识有几个方面?** **神如何通过我们彰显他大能的荣耀?** **当你遇到环境,遇到试探,你会认为是神在攻击你吗?** 以利户所说的是一个事实,我相信以利户在替神发表一个言论。让人知道神是一个怎样的神。神爱世人将他的独生子赐给他们,叫他们不至灭亡,反得永生(《约翰福音》3:16)。我们当中有谁敢拍着胸脯说:神我感谢你,我愿意为命摆上。 你真的愿意为神把你的命摆上吗?当你的工作和服侍神发生冲突,稍微放下你的工作得安息不好吗?我曾经放下过,放下了以后,神使我得尊荣、得尊贵,神一步一步高举我。 有一个姐妹来到我们当中,后来不能够认同,离开教会又回去职场,后来再次回到了我们当中,因为收到了一封警告信,她还有60天工作就要没了。回来没几天她的工作稍微有一些反转又离开教会。她把自己的工作看成命似的,前几天已经被开除了。 你靠着你自己的能力你能够保住你的工作你就去做这样的事情。但是至于我,**我绝对不靠我自己的,我靠的就是这位爱我的神,他既然把耶稣基督他的独生儿子赐给我,岂不把万有都赐给我**。我不抓住神,我抓别的东西做什么呢?其实我很有资格去抓住工作,但我知道那不是我的道路。因为我的答案都在神的里面。

以利户在说这些话的时候,神就在他们最沉醉的时候,用异像开通他们的耳朵,在他的梦里告诉他,将当受的教训印在他们身上,好叫他们不从自己的谋算。不行骄傲的事,拦阻人不陷于坑里、不死在刀下。(《约伯记》33:16-18) 在旧约《圣经》里,神不希望老以利被判死刑的,一次又一次的警告他,叫他回转向神。神也一次又一次的警告扫罗,但是他们都是不肯回转。都行在自己的谋算当中。 今天我们教会里,仍然有很多人愿意行在自己的谋算当中。他跟我说了很多,但我听了没有一句是《圣经》上的话,都是自己的谋算,你要往坑里跳。神也不拦你,但是选择在你和我。这是以利户对神的第一个认识。

神接二连三地向人行这事,为要从深坑就回人的灵魂,使他被光照耀与活人一样。今天我们一定要知道,**神是救赎我们的神**。神要救赎我们脱离深坑,他无限次的向人行这样的事。 **一个罪人,不管他在什么时候回转向神,神都重新接纳**,虽然《圣经》里头讲了狠话:如果是这样的人,就没有重新懊悔的机会啦。其实讲得是很狠的。但是我想,只要这个人重新真正的懊悔回转向神,神仍然接纳他。因为神拯救人。 所以我们仔细的思考,我们把神的救赎当作一块抹布还是至宝。你和我本来是毫无盼望的人,什么盼望都没有,活着活着就死了。在世上所夸口的不过是劳苦愁烦,没得癌症的还感谢神,但是不管是什么样的疾病都够受啊! 这世上我们能夸口的是什么呢?你真的知道你的未来吗?明天是否能够见到早起的太阳都不知道,你夸耀的是什么呢?还谋算什么呢?几时生死你说的都不算,你说的算什么呢?紧紧抓住你的工作做什么呢?有的人说:牧师不理解我。你说我能理解你吗?我告诉你神也不理解你。是你自己也不理解你自己。 今天我跟大家说一句掏心的话,工作不能救你脱离阴间,所以有人跟我说了一些事情的时候,我告诉他:灵界的真实你知道吗?他说我知道。那为什么还说这些鬼话呢?我们当中对灵界一点儿也不认识的人不多,多多少少都看见灵界的真实对不对?不要以为没有这些事情。

上个礼拜天来到我们当中的一对夫妻,那个男的打电话给我,他的岳母肝癌还剩两个月的生命,最近他的岳母常常看见牛头马面,原来我们中国人所说的牛头马面不是假的。 你知道吗?那就是死亡的灵,他问我为什么我的岳母老是看到牛头马面,我该怎么办?地狱的灵来抓你的岳母来了,怎么办?打仗就把这死亡的灵击退。但是人在这世上,**神已经胜过阴间地狱死亡的灵,把这权柄放在你手中**,我们是否去真的珍惜这样的权柄来使用呢? 在我们当中,我相信你一定会知道,这权柄是多么宝贵,我很感慨,一个人经历了神,但是却不把他当作至宝,常常羞辱神。如果我活在今天这个世代,在我年轻的时候我能够回到国内,能够有机会继续持守聚会,我告诉你我一个都不会错过。 养成这样的性格不好吗?真的认识神,神的救赎,救我们脱离阴间地狱死亡,从深坑里从地狱里救回人的灵魂,然后使人被光照耀成为一个有灵的活人,这是何等宝贵的事情!但是很多人不看重。我想以利户讲的话太好了。

我们在读《创世记》的时候,常常有一些不信主的人来到我们当中查《圣经》。神太狠了,怎么就这么把所多玛给灭了。我听了他的话,我说:朋友,如果你和我是审判官,你会怎么审判?他让我告诉他这个地方怎么了。 我说,有两个地方,任何一个经过这地的人,从1岁到70岁,进来的人只要路过这个地方的人就被强奸。而且全城的男女老少都来干这件事儿,直到把这个人弄死。我问你,如果那个人就是你的家人,你会怎么审判这个城市?他说:要定他们死罪! 今天如果我们在网上听到一些国家,经常轮奸小孩,你会觉得很难接受是不是?如果你是个接受的人,你还有点儿公义和良心吗?神怎么说?就算是在这个地方,有五十个、四十个、三十个好人,我都不为这些好人灭绝这个城市。**神断不至作恶**。 今天我们看见一些事情不明白就说不明白,不要论断神。我们以为论断神是可以得赦免的,其实是不能够得赦免的,因为我们不认识神,神竟然把他的独生儿子赐给我们,岂不是把万物都赐给了我们?我们竟然不把他当作是宝贵的。

神在天上,看到人陷在罪恶当中,神的灵不得安息。神极其得难过,在诺亚的那个年代,神说我后悔造人在地上。你知道神当时里面的那种感受是多么受伤吗? 今天我们当中也有一些弟兄姐妹,其实我想如果大家真的了解你们的牧师,你的牧师在你身上所付出的我不想计较,因为那都是从神而来,但如果把我所付出的,在你们身上当作一个辖制、当作一个败坏,其实我心里头还是有伤痛的,只是我治愈能力比较快,我也不太在乎。 我这一次回台北,我一而再再而三的推脱,我说我到了机场我就搭一个出租车去聚会场就好了,不用麻烦,但是他们死活都要派车来接我。我自己很惊讶,我回新加坡的时候,我说我自己搭车就好,但是一位牧师一定要用车送我,亲自送我回机场,我非常的感恩,我不会把这样的爱,当作一种辖制,反倒当作一种激励。我会继续在新加坡这个地方来彰显神的荣耀,传承灵粮堂的命定,以为这是神在我身上的命定。

**我要回答你和在你这里的朋友。你要向天观看,瞻望那高于你的穹苍。你若犯罪,能使神受何害呢?你的过犯加增,能使神受何损呢?你若是公义,还能加增他什么呢?他从你手里还接受什么呢?你的过恶或能害你这类的人;你的公义或能叫世人得益处。(《约伯记》35:4-8)** 这一部分讲的是以利户对神的认识:你行公义神那里也不会多什么;你陷在罪里,神也不会缺少什么。神不会因为你做了什么,神是自有永有的神,他是不缺乏任何东西的神,我们千万不要把自己看得过重。我们带着一颗感恩的心说:神我们感谢你,救我脱离一切的黑暗,我来到你面前,我不能给你加添什么,但是我知道你爱我,你巴不得我能够回转向你,在你面前得好处。 你仔细的想一想,你就会知道,地球在宇宙当中像一粒尘埃。地上的人是地上的一粒尘埃。神拥有宇宙万有。我们在他面前是蒙受何等的恩典。只不过是因他爱我们,希望我们得救而已。至于我们选择什么,千万不要高看自己。神那里不多也不少。 以利户对神的认识:至于这天上多了一个约伯或者少了一个约伯有什么了不起的事情呢?只是**神巴不得因着我们得荣耀,他巴不得跟我们分享他的荣耀,让我们得益处**。所以保罗在写保罗书信的时候,他说我要更多的人同得这福音的好处。如果你带着一个目的进前来,那就是要到神面前得好处。我告诉你那是正确的想法。不是说,神我能为你做些什么,当然你有这样的心很好,因为神已经在你身上做了一切。

今天你一定要知道。**你和我在神面前是他手里的作品。但是我们愿不愿意让神来雕琢我们,使我们成为彰显他荣耀的器皿?还是任由我们自己的性子去做我们自己,然后成为魔鬼彰显黑暗权势的器皿**? 所以今天,我巴不得我们的弟兄姐妹都知道。**我们是需要神的,不是神需要我们**,神只是因为爱我们不希望我们灭亡。我们灭亡神那里他是很辛苦的,因为他很爱我们。 看见他所造的人,进到地狱里面,那可不是开玩笑的。今天如果我们中间有人,进入地狱里走了一圈,他绝对不会再想去那个地方,死活他都会奔跑这天路的。如果你不知道这问题的严重性,还以为能给神点什么,好像要给神点面子来信靠他,那你就想错了。神有我们不多,没有我们也不少。因为他自己是自有永有的神,他自己就是一个丰盛的神。他丰盛到一个地步,他很想把他的丰盛给我们。这是以利户对神的认识。

**神有大能,并不藐视人;他的智慧甚广。(《约伯记》36:5)** 你知道我们的神多好吗?神有大能,我们像一粒尘土他竟然不藐视我们。你知道这是何等的尊荣?神非常尊重你和我,他完全有全能剥夺你所有的自由意志,但是他却尊重你,从来不藐视人。他看我们当作宝贝。 所以在新约《圣经》有一段是这样的:天国好比一个人,寻找宝贝,然后发现那个宝贝,然后他就把那个宝贝埋在地里,然后变卖自己所有的,买了这块地。为了得他地里那块宝贝。然后很多人以为埋宝贝的是我们,其实后来我仔细琢磨,原来,埋宝贝的是神。 他不顾一切的要把地里的这块宝贝买来,原来你和我就是那块宝贝。你要知道有信心的人在神的眼里看为至宝。他宝贵到什么程度呢?他并不藐视人,他的智慧甚广,他不保护恶人的性命,却为困苦人伸冤。他时常看顾义人,这义人使他们和君王同坐宝座永远被高举。

神的旨意原来是要把我们从尘土当中拯救出来。如果我们里面有那样的信心,他会使我们坐在他的宝座上。天啊!如果有人不要这样的恩典,我就会说这是天底下最大的傻瓜蛋,不知道享受君王的尊荣,不知道你和我是君尊的祭司。 所以如果将来有机会,你们可以出去,传福音的时候,一定带着君尊的祭司的形象。我今天一定要告诉大家。钱跟冥纸一样,真的没有什么太大的用处,如果不知道我们会跟王,跟神同坐王,做基督徒就白做了。 **我想我盼望着那天的来到,我不知道我会不会得着,但是我会忘记背后努力面前,向着这样的标杆直跑,再从神的手里得奖赏**。他高举我们不是一天两天,有一天给你拿下来。他要因为你在世上能够过一个得胜的基督徒的生命,将来把你高举直到永远,你想这是何等恩典,所以我想我们今天,直到见主面,才能够完全明白《圣经》里写的是什么。 但是我觉得读了这些话,特别爽。**我本来就是一介尘土,但是神竟不轻看我,还为我预备君尊祭司的恩典,让我能够将来跟他同坐王。**如果今天我们轻看了我们的职分,看重你的工作超过看重神,看重钱超过看重神,那我们当中的确有人啊,我想这个鸡腿窝头的理论,可能还有市场的。但是我想告诉你的理论不是鸡腿那是君王。

**神为大,我们不能全知;他的年数不能测度。(《约伯记》36:26)** 这一段在讲什么?我告诉你神的大能是超越我们理性的。神为大,有多大?我们不能够全知。所以当我们进入这个属灵的世界,开始对神有一点点的认识了解,我告诉你,你所了解的,连海水之一滴都不如。 如果你仅仅满足于此,就放弃不断去追求认识神,是何等的愚昧。如果在认识神的海洋里面的一滴水你得着了,已经让你无处可容。如果说人得着了这一点点,就开始满足于现状,我告诉你,这在神的眼中是看作愚昧的。 神何等的伟大,完全超过我们的想象,有的人说我们到天上干什么?我告诉你认识神是永远的事情。我们永远都不能够囚禁认识神的路。也就是说在神的奇妙的里面,我们仅仅知道了一点点,认识神的奇妙仅仅知道了一点点。如果说我们今天,是一个愚昧的人。开始放下神的启示,开始不再认识神,就以为你做的那份工当作你生命的一切。在神的眼中是非常的愚昧的。

你知道神做的工作太奇妙了,像雨水、雷电这些东西,甚至有一些东西,他要用他所发的雷声显明他的作为。我告诉你暴风来临的时候,动物都知道,但是人不知道。你不觉得奇怪吗?你不要以为人知道的比动物知道的多,你知道在最近在这个纽约大街上老鼠成行,他们说夸张一点纽约已经被老鼠掌控了。 你要知道我们生存的环境,如果动物开始有点儿怪异,你一定要知道有大事发生。你要好好预备,所以神在做这些事情的时候,动物先知道人后知道,人要跟动物学习,你不觉得奇妙吗?其实不是跟动物学习,是要敬畏神。神要羞辱人呀,羞辱我们的科学家们呀。我告诉你,动物都比我们的科学家先知道事儿。你不觉着很奇怪吗? 1976年唐山大地震,后来记载,那一天整个城里乡间的动物全都很诡异,比如说本来不能飞的鸭子飞到了墙上去,老鼠成群到处乱窜,很奇怪的事情都发生了,但是人们不知道要发生什么事情。然后夜里就发生了大地震,死了几十万人。人太渺小,神太伟大,完完全全超过你和我所能想象的。

我今天给大家一个鼓励。鼓励大家学习追求认识神。千万不要让神有一天向你宣判:你们断不可以进入我的安息,然后就跟人断绝关系。我们没有办法再进入神的面前。死在旷野的以色列人不是我们的借鉴吗?死在旷野的以色列人不是我们需要学习的功课吗?为什么今天还要走这硬着心的路呢?我告诉你神的心都要碎了。神为我们破碎自己的儿子耶稣基督,但是人竟然不当做宝贵。 今天有一个姐妹早晨来到教会,我听了她的见证。我很感恩,我说神你太奇妙了。常常高举尊荣你的人,你使尊荣你的人得着尊荣,我们这个姐妹本来学校专科毕业以后就不想做老师,害怕站讲台。但是今天做了一名老师。那她做了老师以后,公司把她的讲课拍下来作为一个样本,送到总部跟其他所有的分行去竞赛,但愿神使她得着恩宠,使她所讲的课能够得着奖利,成为她极其美好的履历,在她的履历表头可以得着一个亮点。我想这不是我们的能力,我们有什么能力?这是神的恩典,这是神的恩宠。 后来她还跟我分享,所有跟她配合过的老师,有一个队友互评。那她的队友互评里面是最高分的。我就跟这个姐妹讲千万不要以为那是我们的能力。那是神在我们身上,彰显他的恩宠。你知道为什么会是这样吗?有一天,她就开始每个礼拜五,她公司给她的假期是拜五。那拜五早上10点半到下午我们有一个祷告会,有祷告会她就会来。 我想我们会有洗衣服打扫卫生买东西整理家务这些琐事我们都可以做,但是她把这个时间拿出来分别为圣。你尊荣神,神就尊荣你。我在过去这些年,我告诉你,我是横下一条心,今天我站在这里作牧师,不是因为别的,而是因为我很想做牧师。我很想服侍我的神,因为服侍我的神是我的生命。他不是可有可无的。 那其实我在做到CIO(信息部总监)的时候,我想我可以有理由把我的工作当作神。但是我把服侍神当作我的生命。虽然起初我不知道如何建立教会,但是我的动机从来都没有错过。我要服侍我的神,因为我的神是我的生命的源泉。我想这样的话,需要配得你们去揣摩。

**或为责罚,或为润地,或为施行慈爱。(《约伯记》37:13)** 以利户对神的认识有一个奇妙的恩典,他把神责罚和慈爱,都清楚的描述出来。绝对不是说要么责罚什么也不在乎,也不是要么慈爱爱到不得了。他是有责罚有慈爱,不管怎么样,他都是要人得生命,又责罚又慈爱,这样总能够得着一些人进到他的国度里。 这实在值得我们去思考,那人有的时候说神是爱,已经爱到不分青红皂白了。那有的人说神严厉,已经忘了神是施慈爱的神。所以今天我们要对神有一个正确的认识。我想以利户对神的认识这些话语,是神所默认的。这就是为什么神不责备以利户。他所说的这些话,跟前面的三个朋友是完全不同的格调。

**约伯啊,你要留心听,要站立思想神奇妙的作为。(《约伯记》37:14)** 神的奇妙是我们所不能知道的,这不能知道的背后是什么?其实是信心,因为我们不能够完全知道,所以我们相信。我们相信就把这个神复杂的奥秘一下子都简单化了,因为我们选择相信。**当我们选择走信心的路时,我们就是义人。神就以你为义。**太奇妙了! 约伯一直想知道。到底发生了什么事儿。其实神到底也没有告诉他,是神跟撒旦打赌。到底约伯也没知道。然后这个以利户,你能知道这些吗?这些奥秘是属于耶和华的。至于神对于我们施行爱,我们也必须凭着信心进前来领受神的慈爱,不是吗? 那如果说是我们知道神是慈爱,就够了。你凭着信心就能够领受到慈爱。我刚才跟大家讲的这个见证不就是见证神的慈爱吗?那我在进到第一份正经工作的时候,我干了一年,那一年下来你知道吗?我的英文很烂。我不知道自己的英文能不能跟别人正确的沟通。很多时候沟通就是鸡同鸭讲。但是到了年底的时候他们把我选为整个公司的先进工作者,最佳表现奖。 我告诉你我上台的时候,让我讲几句话,我都是磕磕绊绊的。我知道这不是我的本事因为神拣选我,给我这样的恩宠,那后来我一步一步,神抬举我做到CIO的位置。那做到CIO的位置的时候,跟我那一天一同得奖的那个人都去做了部门的领导。

我想你越是想知道这些现象,你不如把这些想知道这些现象的能力拿来认识神,认识神一点也不难。《圣经》怎么说?你要想寻求认识神,你叩门的就给你开门,寻找就寻见。不是寻求这些自然科学的知识,是寻求那生命的道路。云彩如何浮在空中,就浮在空中吧。 但是我如何得着丰盛的生命,那是我所寻求的。我如何的更加的来认识这位神。如何更多的经历这位神。更多的经历他的奇妙作为。然后更多的得着他从宝座来的能力,然后在这世上,成为彰显他荣耀的器皿。然后成为地上万国万邦的祝福,才是我们要追求的。我们追求的不是一个物理现象。或者一个化学现象。当然追求这是是留给科学家去追求的。但是我们这些基督徒们,我们要成为彰显神荣耀器皿的人。这就是以利户所说的话。

**论到全能者,我们不能测度;他大有能力,有公平和大义,必不苦待人。(《约伯记》37:23)** 讲得多好啊这话。跟《传道书》的最后一句话一样。凡自以为心中有智慧的人他都不顾念。今天如果你觉得你自己了不起,你就是神所不顾念的人。如果你觉着神是我的神,这是我生命的中心,我要过以神为中心的生活。 我一生都要敬畏他,所以我一生都要跟随他。他就是我的道路,我的生,就是我的一切。如果你有这样的想法就跟以利户说,论道全能者我们不能测度,他大有能力有公平有大义必不苦待人,所以人敬畏他。这就是关键。

你要敬畏神,如果你不敬畏神,你所追求的这些东西是什么东西呢?你跟我讲东讲西的这些东西有什么用?我今天告诉大家,我心里的一个想法,也许会冒犯一些人,但是这是我心里的真实想法。因为在这几天台北的课程里面,周牧师周师母站在台上,又开始跟我们120个全职的教会传道牧师同工又开始说,建造教会就像开飞机,我们要去到天国的都上来。不要去天国的赶紧下去。因为到了半路他要下的时候。你不知道是要下还是不下。听明白了吗? 所以我今天看到一个新闻,他说有一个醉汉,像这个空姐示爱。结果飞机没有办法飞到目的地又折返迫降。教会里头如果有一个醉汉,身上带着炸弹然后我们说要飞到天国去。他说你要飞我就拉这跟绳。然后我们就同归于尽。 你要不要这样的人上?你不要我也不要。凡是我们带着同样使命的人,可能你不知道使命是什么,但是你心里头有一颗心,你要来更多的认识神,我们就跟你来一起更多的认识神。如果你说你要离开,我绝对不挽留。有人要离开我绝不挽留。 你认同我的话,大家有同样的认同,我们就继续走这条路。不是牧师没有爱心,你如果愿意的话,我一定会爱的,一定会爱到底。但是如果你追求世界上的东西,就去吧,至于我和我们的弟兄姐妹,我们必定侍奉耶和华,因为侍奉神乃是我们的生命!阿门!

第一点,在第33章的第8节,以利户说你所说的我听见了,也听见你的言语。约伯怎么说呢?我是清洁无过的,我是无辜的,在我里面没有罪孽,神找机会攻击我,以我为仇敌,把我的脚上了木狗,窥察我一切的道路(《约伯记》33:8-11)。我问你,以利户说的话是不是约伯说的?如果我们当中有人这么认识神。你就走了约伯不太正确的路。 虽然约伯在这个过程当中说了这话,后来他说什么?我以前是风闻有神,后来才亲眼认识神。这个不是不认识神的结果。这个时候约伯其实还没有认识神,约伯还是喜欢问这个为什么那个为什么,他想知道很多的东西,那这个时候,以利户没有把约伯说对的东西拿来评价,以利户是把约伯说的不太对的东西拿来说一下,好让我们能够了解约伯他的问题出在哪里。 我们清洁无辜也好,我们没有罪孽也好。但是我们不能说神找机会攻击我。神找机会攻击你,神跟你玩。好玩吗?我不觉着神会做这样的事情。攻击我们跟我们玩。一点儿也不好玩。我想今天我们要学会一件事情。学会什么样的事情呢?神不会攻击我们,也不会以我们为靶子,也不会以我们为仇敌。虽然我们不知道我们发生了一些事情背后发生的一些什么事情。

像我刚才举得那个牧师的例子。我们不知道背后到底发生了什么。但是感谢神,神仍然在那个牧师身上掌权,不是反转了吗?经过了一场七年的非常辛苦的历程。但是又有什么关系呢?所以我们里面如果说是我们觉得我们清洁无过然后就什么事情都不会发生不是这样的。神要让你更加的认识他。所以今天我跟大家分享一个例子。 有一个人说主啊,给我忍耐的心然后另外一个牧师不知道你在求什么?然后他说我在求什么?他说患难生忍耐,忍耐生老练,老练生盼望,如果你要求忍耐,就必然会有患难。我们可能不太了解这样的事情,神做工太奇妙了。 但是我们千万不要说神你攻击我,这样的认识是很有问题的。你知道一个人得了癌症,人就会安慰这个患者说,感谢神,都是神允许这样的事情发生,感谢神吧这是神给你的。你知道那个得癌症的人听到以后,就会产生神攻击我的想法。虽然我们不明白,就算是现在约伯的这种光景我们不明白。但是我们里面,是否开始弃绝一种错误的观念,神攻击我。

**我们当选择何为是,彼此知道何为善。(《约伯记》34:4)** 第二点,在第34章的第5节,你觉得约伯说的对吗?我想以利户挑出来的这些问题太精辟。他以为,我是公义。所以这样的事情允许发生在我的身上。神就夺去你的理。是按理走的吗?不是按理走的,我虽有理还算为说谎言的,我虽无过受过的伤还不能医治。其实我告诉你,神是医治我们的神,如果说还没有得医治,但是我相信神一定会医治我。 所以开始弃绝掉这种错误的负面的谎言。那他是不是在说谎言呢?你不要以为你过去行的那些然后就觉得你是公义。你真的谈不上公义啊。那后来我们认识神的时候,如果凭着约伯这种神夺去我的理这种想法,他就不是公义了。但是他还以为他是公义。因为什么?因为他觉得他过去所行的就是公义。虽然神不去挑他的理。但是并不代表约伯说的是对的。但是约伯这么说实际上是有问题的。 以利户挑出来的问题非常的准确的指出了约伯的问题。其实以利户没有把其他的问题拿出来说,那我想我们今天是否能够反过来说,**神就是我的理。神就是我的生命。神就是我的真理。神就是我的道路**。就认定神就是我的医治,神就是我的供应者,神是我的一切。神断不至虚妄,神断不至于行恶。神一定要是我的拯救,直到永远,虽然我们经历一些事情。 但是这又有什么关系呢?如果这至暂至轻的苦楚可以成就及重无比的荣耀。又有什么了不起呢?带着这种态度藐视我们所面临的这一切的困难,没有什么了不起的。都把他们踩在脚下因为神为我预备的是最好的路阿门!这是约伯的第二个。

**约伯说话没有知识,言语中毫无智慧。愿约伯被试验到底,因他回答像恶人一样。他在罪上又加悖逆;在我们中间拍手,用许多言语轻慢神。(《约伯记》34:35-37)** 我告诉你如果一个人不认识神,就会说这样的话,而不是说以利户说的话。约伯说的那些话有的是信心的话,我们感谢神;但是有一些他还是在那里纠缠有些东西,今天我鼓励大家,千万不要像恶人一样。以利户说了一句话,愿约伯被试验到底。这话是真的。神如果试验你和我,把我们卖到埃及做奴隶,把我们放到监牢里头做囚犯,如果像约伯这样,约瑟会把牢底坐穿永远都出不来,就会被试验到底,今天你和我一定要学会在神的考验试验当中得胜。

以色列人出了埃及进了旷野过了红海,结果他们十次试探神,走那不信的路。你比如说这个地方没有水,没有水就抱怨,为什么没有水,我们还不如死在埃及。 如果有死的心,没有水你怕什么呀?这个人很奇怪,然后摩西就祷告神,神就给他们水,给了他们水你能不能学到功课?应该学到了功课了吧。这地方能有水,我的神太奇妙了。下次再遇到没有水的时候你会怎么做?你会说咱们三百万以色列人一起祷告,我们的神一定会给我们水。然后你也得到水了。 三百万以色列人连大到小在那里抱怨,我们不如死在埃及。神又给他们水,但是他们还是没有学到功课。第三次又没有水,有了水还是个苦的。永远学不会功课,永远学不会功课,结果水的这个功课,神给他们三次然后就把他们判了一个卷,不及格!然后又给别的,也不及格。最后就死在旷野啊。 今天你和我在神的考验当中,神如果考验我们,我们一定不要回答神像恶人一样那样的话就会被试验到底,试验到底是什么意思?就是死在旷野。你要死在旷野还是要得胜?得胜进应许之地多么好。听明白了吗?得着应许是多么美好的事情。你不想要我要,我绝对要,我想,无论遇到什么样的光景,都要刚强壮胆,持守信心。对神绝不轻慢,绝不向神说出恶言,然后罪上加上悖逆,这不是什么好人。

**才说这与我有什么益处?我不犯罪比犯罪有什么好处呢?(《约伯记》35:3)** 约伯的第四个怎么说的呢?他还是不了解在这个得胜里面,怎么能够没有益处。这与我有什么益处。他喜欢平平安安的在世上走过去。但是我告诉你,神为我们预备的路。是何等的丰盛恩典。就算是遇到一些试验和考验有什么关系,都是与我们有益处的。你看《圣经》怎么说,万事互相效力,叫爱神的人得益处。 但是到了约伯那里成了这与我有什么益处。如果有什么事情要开始感谢神,这就是我的益处。这就是神要的。让万事互相效力,叫我得益处。我不犯罪比犯罪有什么好处呢?连已经犯罪和不犯罪都搞模糊了。你说要不要命?

**所以约伯开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。(《约伯记》35:16)** 所以约伯开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。约伯说了多虚妄的话,大家如果查考《圣经》,千万不要引用那虚妄的话当作真理。你搞不清楚的话就不别引用。引用神说的比较好。 开口说虚妄的话,多发无知识的言语。一个人如果不认识神,常常发无知的言语。我在服侍弟兄姐妹当中,我只是不好意思说,其实听了以后,我只能说《圣经》上哪里有这话。如果《圣经》里没有这话,大概就是无知。人为什么非要走这无知的路呢?如果走那无知的路。还不要醒过来,执迷不悟,继续奔跑那条无知的路。那愿神怜悯啊。 你不要以为约伯,开口说这些虚妄的话,不是问题。只是因为神,让他经历这样的事情,神只是怜悯他。在这样的光景中说了虚妄的话,神也说算了吧,已经受了这么多的苦,发点儿牢骚就发点牢骚吧。 但是你和我,是否重新再认识,那约伯我想后来没有再记载约伯的故事,只是神加倍的祝福约伯。那后来如果约伯再经历同样的事儿,他会怎么做,不一定是完全雷同的故事,但是可能会经历生命中经历另一轮的考验。 但是如果他是一个风闻有神,现在亲眼看见神认识神,我想以利户这话,神的话,会深深的印在他的脑中。他不再说虚妄的话,一个不认识神的人,是一个非常可悲的事,这是以利户指出约伯五个问题的方面。
No comments yet~