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【Course】The Second Global Online Seminar - Church Shepherding Lesson 1 What is Shepherding

2020-04-03 30,560 Second Workshop - Church Pastoral Care Practice Church Implementation God's Word Paying the Price Shepherding

Course Introduction

Good morning, everyone! Today marks the fourth segment of our Global Online Study, Pastoring of the Church. What was the first part of our study? It was How to Study the Bible. The second part covered The Theological System of Healing and Deliverance. Bible study and healing deliverance together are called pastoring. If you were to ask me what the most important work of the church is, it would be pastoring. So today, we will discuss the pastoring of the church.

Speaking on the pastoring of the church can be a bit offensive. Why is that? Because what today's church lacks the most is pastoring. The reason we can speak on this topic today is not because we are doing well enough; we are far from doing well enough. But if we are working hard to solve the problem of pastoring and still not doing well enough, then how much more regrettable would it be if we were not working hard to solve the problem of pastoring!

Today, I see some pastors placing great importance on worship and praise, especially in the current environment where gatherings are online. They feel that worship and praise are very important. However, I have searched the Bible and have not found anywhere that the Bible places so much importance on worship and praise. Today's church has turned things upside down, making pastoring less important and worship and praise very important. As a result, worship teams often run into problems.

The situation of putting the cart before the horse is quite serious today. However, in our church, the first characteristic that brothers and sisters who come among us can experience is pastoring. But I suggest everyone, after listening to today's course, do not have the mindset: You said it, you said we should pastor this way, but you have not pastored me in this way! This matter of pastoring is something I am telling you to do. The Lord Jesus pastored twelve disciples, so I can only pastor fifteen or sixteen disciples. The remaining tasks will be done by the disciples. If these fifteen or sixteen disciples can pastor another fifteen or sixteen, or thirty to fifty disciples, then the remaining tasks beyond them will be done by these thirty to fifty people. We are not shirking responsibility, but this is originally God's intention. Therefore, we must explain the matter of pastoring clearly in our theological system.

Explaining it clearly is not giving you an opportunity to use what I say to demand things of me. In fact, you do not really have the qualifications to demand things of me. You should demand things of yourself. You demand things of yourself, and I also demand things of myself. Wouldn't it be great if everyone demanded things of themselves? Don't always demand things of others. Many people misread the Bible. The husband reads the Bible and says to his wife: See, you should submit to me. The wife reads the Bible and says to her husband: See, you should love me. This is completely backwards! It's as if reading the Bible is for telling others what to do. Today, let's all read it for ourselves.

Today, many among us feel that they believe in the Lord quite well, listening to this and that. Then I must ask you: Do you have pastoring? If you do not have pastoring yet, then you must start to reflect deeply. Today, I am sharing the first lecture from the previous Global Online Study, Pastoring of the Church. Because even if I were to lecture on it again, it would be about the same, just repeating the words in the Bible over and over again.

So, if you are tired of listening today, then there is one thing I must ask of you: Listening cannot solve the problem; doing can solve the problem. What problem can listening alone solve? Therefore, today, our church, especially the Chinese Mingding Destiny, must dare to touch these sensitive topics. Many churches do not dare to touch these issues because they cannot be explained clearly once touched. Today, let us all demand things of ourselves and listen carefully.

One of the Most Important Tasks of the Church is Pastoring

Today, we will discuss the issue of pastoring. One of the most important tasks of the church is pastoring. Earlier, in the local church, I often lamented that I seemed to be a sheep without a shepherd. In the past few years, I was actually finding food for myself, searching and eating everywhere. Later, when I started to establish a church, I was confused: What exactly is pastoring?

The pastoring of the church is actually very important. We all know in our hearts that we love Jesus, and we also know the dialogue between Jesus and the Apostle Peter, which is based on love. This theme is stated in the Bible as follows:

When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?” “Yes, Lord,” he said, “you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my lambs.” Again Jesus said, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” He answered, “Yes, Lord, you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Take care of my sheep.” The third time he said to him, “Simon son of John, do you love me?” Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, “Do you love me?” He said, “Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you.” Jesus said, “Feed my sheep. (John 21:15-17)

I believe that the brothers and sisters among us love the Lord very much. We know that feeding my sheep, taking care of my sheep, is related to loving Jesus. If we love Jesus, we will pastor God's sheep.

In the past few years, we have learned profound lessons. We have discovered that if the church is just a place for gatherings without pastoring, it is a tragedy. Because everyone has problems, and each problem is different. So the problem is that if a church is full of people who love Jesus, it should be a pastoring church.

Love God, then Pastor God's Sheep

My understanding of the church comes from reading the Bible. The Bible says it very clearly. The Bible says that if we love Jesus, we will pastor God's sheep. Does this have something to do with gifts? No! Love God, then pastor God's sheep. If someone says, I do not have the gift of pastoring, you need to know that this is not a question of whether you have a gift, but a question of whether you desire it.

For many years in the local church, I was actually pursuing things on my own. To be honest, I don't remember anything that many pastors preached today because I didn't know what they were talking about. They also liked to arrange time, and then bring a bag of fruit to my house and chat with me for a long time, which made me feel irritated. I asked myself, Is this pastoring?

Returning to the Bible, I learned more about pastoring. Before establishing a church, I didn't care much about how others pastored. We thought that what others were doing was right, so we accepted it. But from my personal perspective, I didn't think that was pastoring. I thought it would be better not to bother me, wasting my time and being of no value to me. Did I lack that bag of fruit? No. Did I lack chatting with others? No. Did I lack having a cup of tea and chatting with others? I didn't lack that either. So what else could we chat about? Actually, there wasn't much to chat about, although we did talk about some scriptures.

Later, when I started to establish a church, I really wanted to understand what pastoring was. I didn't want to bring a bag of fruit to people's homes and chat about irrelevant things, so I knelt down to pray. In fact, God's words in the Bible are very clear, saying if you love Jesus, then pastor God's sheep and feed God's lambs.

I didn't know how to pastor, and I didn't know how to feed, so I was very confused. Then I knelt down and prayed every day. God gave me a few words that were very clear: First, deliver people from the oppression of the devil; second, deal with the carnal habits in people's bodies; third, teach the word of God; fourth, supervise, which is to monitor and observe the implementation of God's word.

Today, our church is a pastoring church, but if you have not yet been included in the ranks of pastoring, especially brothers and sisters online, please forgive me a little. I may not have a pastoring relationship with you yet, but if you have a pastoring relationship with the people I train, and are pastored in the church, you will know that we are very serious.

Among the churches I know, there is no church that pastors as delicately as we do. Maybe I don't understand the situation, but I think there are not many. But as far as I know, the vast majority are gathering churches. We are a pastoring church, not a gathering church. Gathering is for pastoring, and pastoring is not for gathering. Today, I never require brothers and sisters to adhere to gatherings, but the brothers and sisters of the church must be pastored. The purpose of pastoring is to enable these Christians to gradually grow into maturity, fully attaining the stature of Jesus Christ. This is where our pastoring comes from.

Pastoring is to Establish People's Faith in the Word of God

Later, in the process of practice, I kept pondering and understanding what pastoring was all about. In fact, these four aspects are about establishing people's faith in the word of God. If a person establishes faith in the word of God, it can solve many problems.

Therefore, faith is a fundamental problem. If a person has faith in their heart, believes in the word of God, there will be love in their heart, and they will pastor.
I really like to preach the way of Jesus. Jesus saw people being dominated by diseases, and as long as we turn to him, he will heal us. But today, when we see the brothers and sisters of the church being dominated, struggling in diseases, do we think about one thing, what would Jesus do? Jesus would heal them because they are God's flock.

Later, healing and deliverance became a very important work of our church. It is very hard for people to be dominated by the devil. If we do not release them in this situation, and find many reasons to prove that not releasing them is God's will, then many people will easily understand God as a cruel God.

In this generation, many churches promote worship and praise. What is the purpose of worship and praise? Worship and praise is for pastoring God's flock, and pastoring is not for worship and praise. So, many concepts in the church need to be adjusted, and our brothers and sisters really need to ponder and think about it.

Once, I was taken to a businessman's clubhouse, where there were about a hundred Christian pastors. I went there hoping to solve his problems. Why was I taken there? Because I performed miracles wherever I went. One day, the boss of a software company personally saw me praying with a child who had a sprained foot and his mother for more than ten minutes and being healed. At that time, the ankle was still blue, but he was already able to jump around.

At that time, I went to his software company for a meeting. During the meeting, the child's mother called for help. The customer service of our church did not respond, and I couldn't ignore it, so I stopped the meeting first and started to serve. They also watched me serve without holding a meeting, and after seeing me pray for the child, the businessman took my hand and said, You are the pastor I've been looking for! Later, he bought a plane ticket to serve another businessman.

When I arrived at the other businessman's place, there were more than a hundred pastors in his clubhouse giving worship training, but what pleased me was that the businessman told me that he had received many pastors, and I was the only pastor who cared about his problems. Many pastors think very complicatedly when they meet rich people, but I only care about people's problems.

That night, he said that a sister in the worship and praise training session had a terrible stomachache. I said, Then you can call her. I'll pray with her for a while and she'll be fine. As a result, they called and said she had been sent to the hospital. Then I thought, if Jesus were there, what would he do? Jesus would definitely heal her. In fact, it's easy to get healed from a stomachache. In fact, this businessman's sister also had stomach cramps and often called us at night. Our pastors served very diligently.

Therefore, in the past few years, many brothers and sisters who have participated in the ministry have developed the habit of staying up late. Why do they stay up late? In fact, many problems are closely related to the spirits of the underworld and death. Everyone must know that diseases are closely related to the power of the underworld. The power of the underworld is very rampant at night. If you are sick, you are usually very uncomfortable in the second half of the night.

Once, a sister's father was dying. He couldn't get out of bed during the day and had to be turned over with great effort, but at two o'clock in the night, he sat up and started talking nonsense. The sister called me, and I prayed with her father on the phone. As soon as I prayed, he went back to bed and went back to sleep, but he still couldn't get up the next day and didn't know what was happening. In fact, people are often in a very spiritual state before they die.

Today, these things are very common pastoring work, but what is the situation of many pastors today? Everyone has a church, and you can judge for yourself. I attach great importance to the illness of brothers and sisters, because that is an opportunity for the church to release God's power, to release brothers and sisters from the power of the underworld. Where we cast out demons by the Spirit of God, the kingdom of God has come, which is closely related to the kingdom of God.

The Good Shepherd Lays Down His Life for the Sheep

So, I feel very happy to cast out demons a lot. This kind of thing often happens at night. A church without pastoring basically doesn't do these things. What exactly is feeding God's sheep and feeding God's lambs? In fact, it is feeding the word of God. When pastoring God's sheep, if the sheep are taken away by wolves, the wolves must be driven away and the sheep must be rescued. The Good Shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. We must weep with those who weep and rejoice with those who rejoice, which is a connection of love.

In the environment I am in today, I am actually very tired. Once, I was invited to participate in a meeting, and they invited me to speak on the stage. I like to talk about the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. If you love Jesus, you should pastor God's flock. When I said this, I offended many pastors. As a result, they waited for me to come down from the stage and pulled me aside and said, You can't say that. Are you the only one who can do it? This is not about whether I can do it or whether others can do it, this is the word of God.

Many times, I may not be doing it perfectly, but I am working hard to implement it. So today, the church is a pastoring church. I attach great importance to pastoring. I told the brothers and sisters in our church who are involved in the ministry, Our customer service, when brothers and sisters call us when they are in need, we really have to surpass the customer service of those multinational companies. In fact, customer service is not common in churches.

Healing and Deliverance are Basic Works of the Church

Healing and deliverance is a very important part of church pastoring. I think this is an example set for us by Jesus, which is the way Jesus pastured. For example, Peter's mother was sick, and Jesus touched her and she was healed. What Jesus did was probably like this.

Many times, we see brothers and sisters living under the control of diseases, especially in an environment like Singapore. What do I often see? A group of text messages saying, Pastor so-and-so, Brother so-and-so, Sister so-and-so is praying for you. They euphemistically call it intercession. As for whether the prayer is effective, whether they get healed or not, it is not within their scope of consideration at all. Over time, everyone thinks this is normal. But I don't think it is normal. It's probably just a superficial effort. If we are serious, can't we desperately pray with this brother or sister and kill the demon? They don't want to be serious and find many excuses.

When I first returned to Singapore, a friend invited me to dinner. It happened to be a Sunday. He said that their church's pastor had just taken a large group of people to see how a Korean pastor did healing and deliverance. After watching, when they came back that Sunday, their pastor preached a sermon called: If God doesn't heal you, do you still believe? In fact, looking back, I have never seen such words in the Bible. What have I seen? By Jesus' stripes we are healed.

On the same day, a couple came, and the sister had severe urethritis. She had to go to the bathroom every short period of time. Because of this reason, she ran to my residence to chat with me. I explained these spiritual truths to her, and a wonderful thing happened. She sat with me for almost 5 hours, and when she got up to leave, she said, It's really amazing in your place. My urethritis usually can't last this long. I have to go to the bathroom every little while, but during the process here, there were no such problems.

Today we must build people's faith in God. God is the God who heals us. This is the word of the Bible. We must never always think, I want to be a millionaire, please help me God. These things may not be in accordance with the Bible. In the next week or two, I will continue to serve this sister until she is completely healed. She has had urethritis for many years.

Serving With Great Effort

There are many more examples I would like to give. Why don't many churches dare to promote healing and deliverance? Because healing and deliverance requires paying a price. In our church, I have set an example. If this matter falls into my hands, then I am serious. Unless one day the person being served says, Get out of here. I will obediently get out of here. If he doesn't let me get out of here, no matter how busy I am, I will always follow up until this person is released. This is the pastoring of the church.

I can tell you one thing, my phone is on 24 hours a day. But as the church gradually increases in numbers, even tens of thousands, there is only one way, which is to train more people like me to get up to serve. Once, I was invited to serve. On that day, I went to visit a family. The child in this family had meningitis. His arms were severely twisted and he was mentally retarded. I prayed for the child, and we prayed until 12:30 in the middle of the night. I and my co-workers only had a cup of instant noodles to eat.

Because I was invited, I should have returned to the pastor who invited me. I called him to tell him that I could not return, but I could not get through. The next day I asked, and it turned out that he turned off his phone at 10 pm every night. I was shocked: I can't find you, so can your sheep find you?

Why is my phone on 24 hours a day? Because things often happen at night! This is all about pastoring God's flock! The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. I am not boasting, I really want to convey a message: Do you love Jesus? If you love Jesus, go pastor God's flock! Pastoring God's flock, if a sheep gets sick, can you leave it alone? This is confusing. Why turn off the phone?

Once, my co-workers and I went abroad to attend a special meeting, and the American senior pastor was invited. Someone wrote a note to the pastor and asked the pastor what their hobbies were. One pastor said he liked sports cars, and another pastor said he liked hunting, and they conveyed a message to the people in the church: Monday is their day of rest, and no one can disturb them. I was surprised, how did it become like this? When did you see the Apostle Paul take Monday as his day of rest? No, Paul went to build tents on Monday, and he had to come back to serve. Did Jacob rest when he was grazing sheep at his uncle Laban's house? No, he didn't rest for 20 years. This pastor said on the stage that his co-worker called him, and he severely criticized this co-worker. He said, Do you know today is my day of rest?

Rest and repose are both rest in English, but our Chinese translation is particularly good. Rest cannot solve the problem, repose can solve the problem. My co-worker asked me what my hobby was, and I said, I love to serve. Serving God is the best thing! Since we have identified God, we will serve our God with our lives! The brothers and sisters among us are really blessed. You are well pastored among us!

Our current concept of pastoring is very weak. Some churches' concept of pastoring is just to chat and talk, without any real effect. If every church rises up and earnestly implements healing and deliverance and pays the price, there will be endless needs to serve in this generation. To this day, I am still suffering from one thing, how to train more people to get up to serve, how to train more people to be willing to lay down their lives for Jesus, and to serve well with a heart of love for God.

I think it is easy to introduce a doctor to someone today, but that is not pastoring. I am not against people seeing a doctor. If you choose to see a doctor, then you should go to see a doctor. This is your choice. This generation lacks the concept of pastoring. What exactly is pastoring? The first way to pastor is to release the sheep from bondage, and then feed the sheep fully, feed them fat, lead them to streams of water and green grass, so that they can thrive, grow into adulthood, and have the stature of Jesus Christ.

Why do some churches not dare to do healing and deliverance? It costs! I saw some brothers and sisters being dominated by the devil. I served them and spent a full three months before they were released, which was a heavy price.

There is also a brother who is a Singaporean, and his church does a good job of healing and deliverance. He always came to me. I asked him why. It turned out that his church only has healing and deliverance on Tuesdays. He said that he can always find me and I always serve him! I was wondering why it's only on Tuesdays? Hospitals still have an emergency room! The church has become like this. It's very strange. This is very surprising!

There is a Singaporean couple, one of the sisters has severe depression and raises three children, one of whom has Down syndrome. They are wage earners and are very tired! The husband lost his job in order to take care of the family and they live on donations from charities. They have found many churches that can't solve their problems. They found me here. We prayed with her and she vomited several kilograms of sticky sputum.

After we served them for two months, they returned to their original church. After a while, they came to me again. I prayed with them again, and they got better again. I asked them why they didn't find their own church. They said, Our church only has healing and deliverance once a month. I was very moved when I heard that: healing and deliverance once a month, and it still requires the recommendation of the group leader. Then all the people who come in from the street to find Jesus are released!

Eliminating the Bad Habits of Catering to the Flesh

Healing and deliverance often mask a severe problem of catering to the flesh. That is, why do people attract demons? Because they have fleshy habits. If you ask me, In the Bible, after those people were healed by Jesus, were the roots removed? I tell you, The roots were not removed; the root is their catering to their own flesh. Did the illness relapse later? I don't have biblical evidence, but I can guarantee that it will relapse. Why? Because people got sick before because they lived under a curse, and then they returned to the curse. How can it not relapse? The Bible does not explore the issue of removing roots at all. If you want to find a fundamental solution, there is only one sentence: Carefully observe and follow the words of God.

Failure to carefully observe and follow will surely be cursed. As a pastor, if you read the Old Testament Scriptures, you will often lament that there are no good shepherds. They slaughter the sheep, eat them, and stew them, which is a crucial matter. Therefore, pastors are deeply cursed. I am not only speaking to our brothers and sisters, but also to these online friends. If you hear this, go back and examine the Scriptures. Pastors are deeply cursed by God.

If you ask me why the proportion of cancer among full-time workers in the entire church is so high, it is simple: because they do not shepherd God's flock according to God's will. Shepherding God's flock according to God's will and delivering people from demons requires us to do one more thing: deal with the bad habits of catering to the flesh.

The root of disease lies in people going their own way. The Holy Spirit and the desires of the flesh compete with each other. Those who follow the desires of the flesh will reap corruption, and those who follow the Holy Spirit will reap eternal life. How can one not get sick if their spirit is not prosperous? Start pondering what I am saying today. It is crucial to deal with being carnal.

I once went to a place, originally to see the property, and met the pastor of that church. He was making dumplings for the congregation. On the day I went, something sad happened. One of the members scolded the pastor and his wife. Why? Because they wanted dumplings with fish filling, but they were filled with pork. As a result, the pastor and his wife were talking to me while crying. Is this called shepherding? This is called catering to the flesh. Using methods that cater to the flesh to shepherd God's flock, when the sheep are already catering to the flesh, and the shepherd caters to the flesh even more, can they avoid incurring sin?

If it were me, like when I was a child, if I said, Mom, I want to eat fried dough twists, my mom would pinch my cheek with two fingers, which hurt a lot. That was the fried dough twist. Actually, after the boy grew up, he was quite obedient and filial.

Among us, if you are a mother who caters to the flesh, I guess you will probably incur sin when you are old. Catering to the flesh corrupts people. The church cannot do this. He cooks dumplings for them to eat. I used to prepare roasted chicken and braised beef, but later I realized that it was not the way to build a church. Those attracted by this method are all foodies. Today, we attract those who have Mingding Destiny, to build God's victorious church with me, to release the captives, to manifest God's glory, and to be a blessing to this generation.

I was thinking, How can a pastor who caters to the flesh shepherd a group of sheep who cater to the flesh and achieve victory? How can they solve problems? The more problems they solve, the more problems arise. Moreover, it is quite common for pastors who cater to the flesh to shepherd members who cater to the flesh. One year, a pastor saw that my website was well-built, so he came to me and asked if I could help him build a website. I said, Your church is ten times bigger than mine. We are just a small group. Why don't you find members of your church to help you build the website? He said, They don't want to do it! Then why should I do it for you?

Later, one of our sisters said to me, Your requirements here are relatively high. Because at that time, I was dealing with her flesh quite harshly. If you don't deal with her, can she be delivered? She had persecutory delusions, phobias, and obsessive-compulsive disorder. If you don't deal with her flesh, she is released and then comes back, and then is released again, when will it end? I served her for a full eight years.

I experienced a lot of grace in her life. She had athlete's foot, so I held her stinky feet and prayed, and her feet were healed. Her obsessive-compulsive disorder was healed with prayer, and her delusions were also healed with prayer. I paid a great price to serve her, and then I pushed her to shepherd. She said, I can't serve like you do. I want to go to bed early and go to work the next day. When I served her, I served until four o'clock. Who cared? I had to get up at seven or eight o'clock to go to work. As a result, she said, I can't be like you. One day, she discussed with me about going to another church, the one that asked me to build their website. I said, If you go, don't come back. I said this a bit harshly. What do you think this is? Come and go as you please? This is God's army, a place to fight spiritual battles. It is possible to fight.

After a while, she asked me to have tea. I asked her, How are you doing? She said, Great. I said, of course, it's great. A pastor who caters to the flesh serving sheep who cater to the flesh is a perfect match. I am being a bit blunt, but it is beneficial to you. I don't hold back anything. I do this because I hope to shepherd God's flock.

It is very important to break through the flesh in shepherding. If the church does not break through people's flesh, no one will build the website. There are many such things. In our church, everyone works hard to transcribe recordings into text. One of my good friends does ministry and pays people to transcribe. Is this the same? I ask you to transcribe recordings into text to bless you, not to exploit you, because it deals with people's flesh. Sometimes, we are a bit strict in managing the text ministry. Shorthand must be completed within the specified time. If you don't do well, we won't include you.

Our church has a way of dealing with people's flesh. Shepherding must involve eating the words of God. Later, I discovered that those who transcribe recordings into text listen to my sermons over and over again, which is very edifying for them and lays a good foundation. The work of transcribing recordings into text is almost implemented by every brother and sister to make you understand thoroughly and not play games. Otherwise, I preach once, and you listen once, and it goes in one ear and out the other, which is useless.

Reading God's Word, Feeding God's Flock

This is the first step in healing and deliverance. The second is to break through the flesh. We have a series of methods to deal with the flesh. We will talk about dealing with the flesh here. The third is to read God's word, feed God's flock, and allow God's sheep to be fed. Do you know how important this is? Generally speaking, not many churches lead the entire congregation in Bible study. We study chapter by chapter. The Bible study recordings on our website are enough for you to listen to for a long time. We provide the recordings on the website for free, and the number of clicks is very high. We cast our bread upon the waters, feeding God's flock.

Sometimes when there is a small glitch on our website, the WeChat and phone of our little assistant will explode. One person said, When will your website be up? We need it to lead Bible study. This guy uses it without paying, but it doesn't matter, I am willing to bless him. However, you can use some things on my website to feed your sheep, but when it comes to our pastors paying the price, can you do it? Paying the price is very important. If you can't pay the price and only have lip service, and you don't believe it yourself and don't implement it, then what will your people feel after listening to it?

Therefore, I put healing and deliverance in the first place in shepherding, which also reflects your concern for the sheep. If your sheep have problems, such as back pain, leg pain, or headache, can you feel their pain? Do you want to release them from their illnesses? That's why we put a lot of effort into healing and deliverance.

Among the churches I know, our church is first-class in healing and deliverance. Our church's brothers and sisters are doing better than many church workers because we preach the word of God. I am talking about my personal experiences, and I am not using others to elevate myself. I just want to exalt Jesus, and the Lord Jesus' will must be satisfied. If a thousand or ten thousand pastors like me arise in the world, they will not be able to serve completely. I think God has chosen me to serve His people, God's flock, so I will do it according to His will.

We have a series of logical systems for examining the Scriptures, including what we were talking about a few days ago. I will say it again today: The purpose of examining the Scriptures is to enable people to implement them. For example, many people suffer from depression, which is a concrete manifestation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and catering to the flesh. If you deal with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and catering to the flesh, depression will be cured. We have many tricks and solutions.

Examining the Scriptures is for implementation. We must act on the words of God after reading them. We divide books into two categories: The first category is called classics. The Bible is a classic that highly summarizes spiritual laws and highly condenses God's will. Whether we preach, study the Bible, or teach courses, we need to implement the words of God. Implementation is called treatise. The Bible is the classic.

Reading the Bible is for implementation. In fact, I am teaching everyone in order to implement it. If you are shepherded among us, you will find that we follow you closely, keeping an eye on you to write notes and attend meetings every day. Someone asked me, Did you arrange a bunch of shills who can write notes so quickly? That's how we train people, listening and taking notes at the same time. After the lecture, the notes are also completed. If you only listen and don't take notes, you will forget everything in the end. If you take notes, you may still remember something; if you don't take notes, you won't remember anything in the end.

Shepherding Is Following Up on a Person's Implementation

Our church has a series of logical systems for Bible study: First, it is implementation. Shepherding is following up on a person's implementation. For example, one sister has a bad temper. She has had a small temper since she was a child and had the spirit of a little fire dragon on her. After believing in the Lord, although her fiery temper has improved a lot, the root has not been removed, not released, and her fiery temper has not been changed because she has not implemented the word of God enough.

Another sister retreats whenever she encounters problems. Once I target her, I will follow up to the end. Some brothers and sisters are not our coworkers, and some brothers and sisters have a little blessing, and I participate in the ministry directly. There are also those who directly send me messages on WeChat. My WeChat often explodes. Sorry, sometimes I miss them. If brothers and sisters have problems, find your own pastor. I really can't take care of so many people alone.

For the brothers and sisters I directly serve, I deal with their flesh to the fullest, specifically dealing with their implementation.
This sister retreats whenever she encounters problems. She has been like this from elementary school, junior high school, high school, all the way to college. Now that she is working, she has the same problem. She still retreats whenever she encounters problems.

But today God is really gracious to me. I basically don't retreat when I encounter problems. That's why we have such good results in healing and deliverance. No matter what kind of difficulties I encounter, I will not retreat. Some healing and deliverance takes three months, some takes half a year, and some takes a year. Shepherding is even more so. Therefore, our brothers and sisters are gradually being incorporated into the shepherding system.

If you are in the group and have not yet entered our shepherding system, you can contact the little assistant and say, I really want to be shepherded. If you want to be shepherded, we will shepherd you. We don't just grab someone off the street and shepherd them. We don't do that. But if we shepherd you, there is a condition: you will definitely grow, but growth requires paying a price.

We will absolutely not show mercy when dealing with the bad habits on your body. Some brothers and sisters have not accomplished anything from childhood to their twenties, thirties, or forties. They have all gone through life in a daze. Can they have faith? Even if they have faith, it is false. It doesn't matter. We can build your faith. We will walk with you for a while.

Today, we are called to do this: to shape all the brothers and sisters who love the Lord and believe in the Lord, to become people who serve this generation, people who shepherd God's flock, and people who feed God's lambs.

Even though a newborn baby only weighs seven or eight pounds, it takes a lot of people to care for it, dealing with its pooping, peeing, and feeding. It is terrible to only give birth to children and not raise them. If a person loves Jesus, they will listen to what Jesus says: Feed my sheep. Jesus didn't say anything else. God knows those who love him. God has prepared for those who love him things that no eye has seen, no ear has heard, and no mind has conceived. Because those who love Him will surely shepherd God's flock, and God will open a rich path for those who love Him.

Shepherding Is Working with God

Why shepherd? Because shepherding is working with God. If we live in the world without seeing through the matter of living, we will live for ourselves. If we see through it, we will live for God, love God to the point of madness, and then we will definitely pay a heavy price to shepherd God's flock.

If we shepherd God's flock, can we not receive God's gifts? The spiritual gifts that God gives you are for shepherding God's flock. Therefore, I am against people who are idle and hide in a small room to pray for visions, gifts, and closeness to God. It's not that you have gifts first, but that you have a heart to serve first, and then gifts will be given to you.

Why does God distribute gifts to each person as he wills? Because God gives gifts according to people's desires. If people don't desire, what can they wait for by just waiting? To die? Today, start to know that loving God means shepherding God's flock, and your life will be very wonderful. If you want to live a wonderful life, walk with God. God will surely help you with what you say and what you do.

And Samuel grew, and the Lord was with him and let none of his words fall to the ground. (1 Samuel 3:19)

So starting today, I encourage our brothers and sisters, if you want to live out God-like splendor and God-like glory in your life, start shepherding God's flock. We will have a series of trainings to train you how to shepherd, which is a personalized training. Today, we will talk about this. Next time, we will talk specifically about how to shepherd.

Conclusion

When you listen to me, you will find that I usually have a relatively clear framework, that is, I will talk about what is shepherding, why do shepherding, how to do shepherding, and how to use specific strategies in shepherding. Shepherding is a big topic. Today, let's talk about how to do shepherding and why do shepherding.

May God bless everyone. In the days to come, carefully ponder what I have said. If you go to church again, you will see clearly: this church has shepherding, that church does not have shepherding, my church is like this, other people's church is like that. Today, we have explored what shepherding as mentioned in the Bible should look like. If the fundamental is reversed, then it is troublesome.

There are many stories in this regard. Once, I went to a place to attend a meeting. I didn't want to speak, but they insisted that I speak on stage, so I talked about loving the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, so as to shepherd God's flock well. It would have been better if I hadn't talked about this topic. Once I did, all the pastors listening below took their seats, which was very uncomfortable. Because their members were also there, when they heard what I said, they realized: Oh no, my pastor is not shepherding. That was uncomfortable. But I can't not talk about shepherding!

So brothers and sisters, if you are from another church today, then I don't really want you to become a member of my church, and I don't really need that. But I hope that all the churches on earth can enter into God's will, love the Lord our God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and well shepherd the flock that God has entrusted to them. This is truly a satisfying thing! Our God will also be comforted in heaven!

May God bless you all!

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大家好!今天是我们全球网络研习会的第四个部分,《教会的牧养》。我们这次研习会的第一个部分是什么呢?是《如何查圣经》。第二个部分,讲《医治释放的神学体系》。查经和医治释放合起来,就叫做牧养。如果你问我教会最重要的工作是什么?那就是牧养。所以今天我们就来讲教会的牧养。 讲教会的牧养这件事,可有点容易得罪人。为什么呢?因为今天的教会,最缺乏的就是牧养。今天我们能跟大家讲这个题目,其实不是因为我们做的够好,我们做的远远还不够好。但如果我们很努力去解决牧养的问题,尚且还不够好,那么如果我们没有努力去解决牧养的问题,该是何等的悲哀啊! 今天我就看到一些牧师,很在乎敬拜赞美,尤其现在的环境下,聚会都在网上了,他们就觉得敬拜赞美很重要。可是我在圣经里找来找去,还真没找到圣经哪里把敬拜赞美看得有那么重要。今天的教会可倒好,把牧养变得没那么重要了,敬拜赞美倒看得很重要,结果敬拜赞美团经常出事。

今天本末倒置的状况相当严重。但在我们教会当中,凡来到我们当中的弟兄姐妹,他能体会到的第一个特点就是牧养。但我建议大家,听完今天的课程,千万不要有一种心态:“这是你说的呀,你说要这样牧养的呀,但是你都没有这样来牧养我啊!”牧养这事儿啊,是我说给你听的。主耶稣牧养了十二个门徒,那我只能牧养十五六个门徒,剩下的事儿,就是门徒们做的了。如果这十五六个门徒能再牧养十五六个、三五十个门徒,那他们之外剩下的事儿,就是这三五十个人做的了。我们不是在甩锅,而是这本来就是神的本意。所以咱们要在神学体系上,把牧养这事儿给讲明白。 讲明白了,不是给你一个机会拿我讲的来要求我,其实你也不太有这个资格来要求我。你应该要求的是你自己。你自己要求自己,我自己也要求我自己,大家都自己要求自己,这不挺好的吗?别整天要求别人。圣经很多人就读错了。丈夫读完圣经,对妻子说:看,你应该顺服我;妻子读完圣经,对丈夫说:看,你该爱护我。这就全读反了!好像读圣经是为了读给别人,今天咱们就都读给自己。 今天我们当中有很多人觉得自己信主信得还不错,一会儿听听这个,一会儿听听那个,那我就要来问问你了:你有牧养吗?如果你还没有牧养,那你就要开始好好反思。今天我是把上一期全球网络研习会《教会的牧养》的第一讲,拿来给大家听。因为即使我再讲一遍,也就是讲这些,就是圣经里的话翻来覆去的讲。 所以今天如果你听得厌倦了,那有一件事我要要求你:听不能解决问题,做才能解决问题,光听能解决什么问题呢?所以今天咱们教会,尤其是华人命定神学,要敢于触碰这些敏感话题。很多教会不敢触碰这些问题,因为一碰就解释不清楚。今天咱们大家就各自要求自己,好好来听。

今天我们来讲牧养的问题,**教会最重要的工作之一就是牧养。**早些时候,我在本地教会常常感慨一件事,就是我好像是没有牧人的羊。过去这些年,其实就是自己找食吃,到处找,到处吃。后来我开始建立教会,我当时很困惑:“到底什么是牧养?” 教会的牧养实际上非常重要。我们心里头都知道我们爱耶稣,我们也知道耶稣跟使徒彼得之间的对话,就是以爱为主题,这个主题在《圣经》是这么说的: 他们吃完了早饭,耶稣对西门·彼得说:“约翰(在马太十六章十七节称约拿)的儿子西门,你爱我比这些更深吗?”彼得说:“主啊,是的,你知道我爱你。”耶稣对他说:“你喂养我的小羊。” 耶稣第二次又对他说:“约翰的儿子西门,你爱我吗?”彼得说:“主啊,是的,你知道我爱你。”耶稣说:“你牧养我的羊。” 第三次对他说:“约翰的儿子西门,你爱我吗?”彼得因为耶稣第三次对他说“你爱我吗”,就忧愁,对耶稣说:“主啊,你是无所不知的;你知道我爱你。”耶稣说:“你喂养我的羊。(《约翰福音》21:15-17) 我相信我们当中的弟兄姐妹非常的爱主,我们知道喂养我的羊、牧养我的羊,跟爱耶稣有关系。**如果我们爱耶稣,我们就会牧养神的羊。** 在过去这些年,我们学了很深的功课,我们发现如果教会只是一个聚会的地方,没有牧养,是个悲哀。因为每个人都有问题,每个问题都还不一样。所以问题就在于,如果一个教会充满了爱耶稣的人,就应该就是一个牧养的教会。

我对教会的认识是从读《圣经》来的,《圣经》上说得非常清楚,《圣经》上说我们爱耶稣,就牧养神的羊,这个有恩赐有关系吗?没关系!**爱神,就牧养神的羊。**如果有人说:“我没有牧养的恩赐。”你要知道这不是有没有恩赐的问题,这是渴望不渴望的问题。 我在当地教会很多年,其实都是自己在渴慕追求。说句老实话,很多牧师讲的道我今天一点也没记住,因为我不知道他在讲什么。他们还喜欢安排时间,然后拎着一兜儿水果来到我家,找我聊了很久,聊得我心里烦躁,我心里就问了一句“这就是牧养吗?” 回到《圣经》,我就更多的来了解牧养这件事。以前不建立教会,就不太关心人家怎么牧养。我们以为人家做的都是对的,我们就这样接受,但是从我个人的角度,我觉得那不是牧养。我觉得最好别来烦我,又耽误我的时间,对我又毫无价值。我缺那一兜儿水果吗?不缺;缺跟别人聊天吗?不缺;缺和别人泡一杯茶聊天吗?我也不缺。那还能聊什么呢?其实也谈不上聊什么,虽然聊得时候也有一点经文。 后来当我开始建立教会,很想了解到底什么是牧养。我不想也拎一兜儿水果到人家家里聊有的没的,我就跪下来祷告,其实神的话在《圣经》里讲得非常的清楚,说**你爱耶稣,就牧养神的羊,喂养神的小羊。**

我不知道怎么样去牧养,也不知道怎么样喂养,就很困惑,然后我就跪下来天天祷告。神给我几句话,非常的清楚:**第一,把人从魔鬼的压制里释放出来;第二,把人身上属肉体的恶习给对付掉;第三,教导神的话语;第四,督责,就是监督、观察落实神话语的状况。** 今天咱们教会是一个牧养的教会,但如果你还没有纳入到牧养的行列中,我想尤其是网上的弟兄姐妹,稍微原谅我一下,我跟你们可能还没有牧养的关系,但如果你跟我训练的人有牧养的关系,在教会里被牧养,你就会知道我们是非常认真的。 在我所知道的教会当中,没有一间教会牧养到像我们这样细腻,也许我不了解状况,我觉得不多,但就我所知道的,绝大多数都是聚会的教会。而我们是一个牧养的教会,不是一个聚会的教会。**聚会是为了牧养,牧养不是为了聚会。**今天我从来不要求弟兄姐妹要守着聚会,但是教会的弟兄姐妹一定要被牧养。**牧养的目的是使这些基督徒能够逐渐的长大成人,满有耶稣基督长成的身量。**我们当中牧养的来源就是这么来的。

后来在实践的过程当中,不断的去揣摩,去了解到底这牧养是怎么回事,其实这四方面就是建立人对神的话语的信心。如果一个人建立对神话语的信心,就能解决很多的问题。 所以,信心是一个根基性的问题。如果一个人心里有信心,相信神的话,心里就会有爱,就会牧养。 我很喜欢传讲像耶稣的道,耶稣看到人被疾病辖制,只要我们回转向他,他就会医治我们。但是今天当我们看到教会的弟兄姐妹被辖制,在疾病当中挣扎,会不会思考一件事,耶稣到底会怎么做?耶稣会医治他们,因为那是神的群羊。 后来医治释放就成为我们教会非常重要的工作,人被魔鬼辖制是非常辛苦的,人在这种状况下,我们如果不把他释放出来,还找了诸多的理由,证明不把他释放出来是神的心意,这样很多人就容易把神理解成是一个残酷的神。

今天这个世代,很多教会推敬拜赞美,敬拜赞美到底是为了什么呢?**敬拜赞美是为了牧养神的群羊,牧养不是为了敬拜赞美。**所以在教会里面有很多观念是否需要被调整过来,我们弟兄姐妹真的需要去揣摩和思考。 有一次我被人带到了一个企业家的会所,那里有差不多百十个基督徒的牧者,我过去是想能够解决他的问题,为什么会被带去呢?因为我走到哪里都行神迹。有一天一个软件公司的老板,亲眼看到我带着一个脚崴的小孩和他妈妈一起祷告十几分钟得医治,当时那个脚踝还是青的,但是已经能够活蹦乱跳了。 当时我去他的软件公司开会,开会过程当中,这小孩的妈妈就打电话求助,当时我们教会的客服没有人回应,我又不能不管,所以就先停止开会,我就开始服侍,他们也不开会就看着我怎么服侍,看到我把这孩子祷告好了以后,这位企业家就拉着我的手说:“你就是我要找的牧师!”后来就买了一张机票去服侍另外一个企业家。 到了那个企业家那里,当天就刚好有一百多个牧者在他的会所里讲敬拜,但是令我欣慰的是,那个企业家对我说自己接待了很多的牧者,我是唯一一个关心他问题的牧者。很多牧者遇到有钱人,脑袋里想得很复杂,但是我只关心人的问题。 当天晚上他说有一位姐妹在那个敬拜赞美的培训会上胃疼得要死,我说:“那你就打过去,我带她祷告一会儿就好。”结果打过去说是送医院了,后来我就想,如果耶稣在那里会怎么样,耶稣肯定会医治她,其实胃疼很容易得医治,其实这位企业家的姐妹也有胃痉挛的问题,经常夜里打电话给我们,我们的牧者们都是很辛勤地服侍。

所以,在过去的这些年,很多参与服侍的弟兄姐妹都养成了熬夜的习惯,为什么会熬夜呢?其实很多问题跟阴间地狱死亡的灵紧密相关,大家一定要知道疾病跟阴间的权势紧密相关,阴间的权势在夜里非常地猖獗,如果生病的话通常在后半夜会很辛苦。 有一次一位姐妹的爸爸要死了,白天起不了床,得靠人使劲翻身才能翻得过来,但是到了夜里两点多就坐起来开始说鬼话。这位姐妹就打给我,我就在电话里带着他爸爸祷告,一祷告他就回到床上躺下去接着睡,但是到了第二天还是起不来,完全不知道发生什么事,其实人死之前常常处在一个非常属灵的状态。 今天这些事都是很平常的牧养工作,但是今天很多牧者是怎么样的一个状况,大家都有教会,你可以自己可以去判断。我非常看重弟兄姐妹生病的事,因为那是教会释放神权能的机会,可以把弟兄姐妹从阴间的权势下释放出来,靠着神的灵在哪里赶鬼,神的国就在那里降临,这事跟神的国紧密相关。

所以赶鬼赶多了,我觉得是一件非常享受的事,这样的事经常发生在夜里。一个没有牧养的教会基本上不做这些。**那牧养神的羊,喂养神的羊到底是喂养什么呢?其实就是喂养神的话语。**牧养神的羊,如果羊被狼叼去,就要把狼赶跑,把羊救回来。好牧人为羊舍命,我们要与哀哭的人同哭,与喜乐的人同喜乐,那是一种爱的链接。 那我们今天在我所处的这个环境当中,其实我非常的辛苦。有一次,我被邀请去参加一个聚会,他们就邀请我上台讲,我上台就喜欢讲“好牧人为羊舍命”,如果你爱耶稣,你就牧养神的群羊,我这一讲冒犯了很多的牧者,结果人家就等我从台上下来,把我拉到一边儿说:“你不能这么说呀,你这么说就你行吗?”这不是就我行,还是别人行,这是神的话语。 很多时候,我不一定做的那么到位,但是我很努力的去落实。所以今天教会是一个牧养的教会,我对牧养这件事看得很重,我就跟我们教会的这些参与服侍的弟兄姐妹说:“我们的这种客服,就是弟兄姐妹有需要打来,我们真的要超越那些跨国企业的客服。”其实,客服在教会当中并不普遍。

**医治释放是教会牧养的一个很重要的组成部分**,我想这是耶稣给我们树立的榜样,那就是耶稣的牧养方式,你比如说彼得的母亲病了,耶稣过去一摸好了,耶稣做的事大概都是这样。 有很多时候,我们看见弟兄姐妹活在疾病的辖制当中,尤其在新加坡的这样的一个环境下,我经常看到什么呢?有一个群的文字信息写着:“某某牧师,某某弟兄,某某姐妹为你祷告。”他们就美其名曰叫做代祷。至于祷告有没有果效,得医治不得医治,全然不是他们考虑的范围之内,久而久之大家都觉得这很正常。但是我就不觉得他正常,那大概就是玩一个表面功夫。如果动真格的话,咱们是不是可以带着这个弟兄或者这个姐妹拼命的祷告,把这鬼干掉,他们不想动真格的,然后还找了诸多的借口。 我刚回到新加坡,朋友就邀请我去吃饭,那天正好是个主日。他说他们教会的牧师,刚刚带着一大群人到韩国的牧师去看他们如何做医治释放,看完了回来那个主日,他们牧师就讲了一篇道,讲的这篇道叫:如果神不医治你,你还信吗?其实话又说回来,我在《圣经》里都没有看过这样的话,我看过的是什么?因耶稣的鞭伤,我们得医治。

就在当天,还来了一对夫妻,这个姐妹有严重的尿道炎,每隔一小段时间就得上厕所,隔一段时间就得上厕所,她因着这样的一个缘故,她就跑到我的住所跟我聊天。我就跟她解释这些属灵的真理,奇妙的事发生了,她在我那坐了差不多5个小时,起身要离开的时候,她说:“在你这真奇妙,我的尿道炎通常不可能做这么久的,一小会儿就得去趟厕所,然后在你这儿的过程竟然没有这样的问题。” 今天我们要建立人对神的信心,神是医治我们的神,这是《圣经》的话。我们不要千万不要老想着:“我想做百万富翁,求神帮助。”这些东西不一定合乎《圣经》。接下来的一两个礼拜,我就就继续服侍这个姐妹,直到完全得医治,她尿道炎好多年了。

我要举的例子还有很多,为什么现在很多教会不怎么敢推医治释放呢?因为医治释放需要付代价,在咱们教会当中,我树立了一个榜样,如果这事掉到我的手里,那我就是认真的。除非有一天那个被服侍的人说:“你滚一边儿去吧。”我就好好的滚一边儿去,如果他不让我滚一边儿去,**这事儿不管我多忙,我一定会一直跟踪,直到这个人得释放,这是教会的牧养。** 有一件事我告诉可以大家,我的手机24个小时开机。但是随着教会逐渐的增加人数,乃至成千上万,只有一个办法就是训练更多像我这样的人起来服侍。有一次我被请去服侍,当天我去探访一个家庭,这家里的小孩是脑膜炎,胳膊严重扭曲,是一个智障。我带孩子祷告祷告,一祷告就到半夜12点半,我和我的同工才吃上一杯泡面。 因为我是被人请去,我理所应当回到请我来的牧师那里。我就打电话给他说我回不去了,结果我打电话就是打不通。第二天我一问,原来他每天晚上10点准时关机。我很诧异:我找你都找不着,那你的羊能找着吗? 我为什么24小时手机开机呢?因为夜里头常常出事啊!这都是牧养神的群羊啊!**好牧人为羊舍命,**我不是在吹牛夸耀,我真的很想传递一个信息:你爱耶稣吗?爱耶稣就去牧养神的群羊!牧养神的群羊,羊生病了,你能放着不管吗?这事让人很困惑,为啥要把手机关掉呢?

有一次,我和我的同工去国外参加一个特会,请来的是美国的大牧师。有人写了一个条子给牧师,就问牧师,他们有什么爱好吗?一个牧师说喜欢跑车,另外一个牧师说喜欢爱打猎,而且他们给教会的人传递一个信息:礼拜一是他们的安息日,任何人都不能打扰。我很诧异,怎么变成这样了呢?你什么时候看到使徒保罗把礼拜一当作他的安息日呢?没有的,礼拜一保罗去支帐篷,回来还要服侍。雅各在他舅舅拉班家放羊,他有休息过吗?没有,他20年没有休息过。这个牧师就在台上说,他的同工打给他,他就严厉的批评了这个同工,他说:“你知道今天是我的安息日吗?” 安息和休息英文都是rest,但我们中文翻译的特别好,**休息解决不了问题,安息才能解决问题。**我的同工问我有什么爱好,我说:“我爱服侍。”**服侍神那是好的无比的事儿!既然我们认定了神,我们就用命来服侍我们的神!**在我们当中的弟兄姐妹真的有福了,你们在我们当中被很好的牧养! 我们当今牧养的概念非常的薄弱,有的教会牧养的概念就是聊聊天说说话,没有实质的功效。如果每一个教会都兴起来,好好的去落实医治释放,好好的付代价,这个世代也有服侍不完的需要。直到今天,我仍然苦于一件事儿,就是如何训练更多的人起来服侍,如何训练更多的人愿意为耶稣摆上生命,带着爱神的心好好服侍。 我想今天给人介绍一个医生,那是很容易的事,但那不是牧养。我不反对人看医生,你选择看医生,那你就去看医生,这是你的选择。这个世代缺少牧养的观念。牧养到底是什么呢?**牧养第一把羊从辖制里释放出来,然后把羊喂的饱饱的,吃的肥肥的,把他们带到溪水青草旁,让他们能够茁壮成长,可以长大成人,满有耶稣基督的身量。**

为什么有的教会不敢做医治释放?那是要付代价的!我看到有的弟兄姐妹被魔鬼辖制,我服侍起来,花了整整三个月才得释放,那是一个很重的代价。 还有一个弟兄是新加坡人,他的教会做医治释放挺好的。他每次都来找我,我问他为什么呢?原来他的教会只有礼拜二才有医治释放,他说每次找我都可以,我都服侍他!我就在想为什么只有礼拜二有呢?医院还有个急诊呢!教会变成这样了呢,非常奇怪,这很让人诧异! 有一对新加坡夫妻,其中的一个姐妹得了很严重的忧郁症,又养了三个孩子,其中一个是唐氏, 他们是底薪工友,非常辛苦!老公为了照顾家庭,工作也没有了,他们靠着慈善机构的赞助生活。他们找了很多的教会都整不了。找到了我这里,我们带她祷告,吐出了好几公斤黏糊糊的痰。 我们服侍了他们两个月之后,他们又回到原来的教会。过了一段时间又来找我,我又带他们祷告,祷告又好了。我就问他们为什么不找自己的教会,他们说:“我们教会每个月只有一次医治释放。”我听了就很感慨:一个月一次医治释放,而且还需要小组长推荐。那大街上进来找耶稣的都得了释放啊!

**医治释放背后其实有严重的体贴肉体的问题。**也就是说人为什么为招鬼?因为他有属肉体的恶习。如果你问我:“《圣经》里那些人,被耶稣医治以后,除去根没有?”我告诉你:“没有除去根,根是他体贴自己的肉体。”后来病又复发了没有?我没有《圣经》的依据,我可以保证告诉你:“肯定会复发。”为什么呢?因为人之前得病,是因为活在咒诅当中,后来又回到咒诅当中去,能不复发吗?《圣经》上根本没有探讨去根不去根,你想找到一个去的根本,只有一句话:“谨守遵行神的话。” 不谨守遵行就必受咒诅。做一个牧者,如果你翻旧约《圣经》就里面常的感叹,没有好牧人,他们是把羊宰了吃了炖了,这是一个要命的事。所以在牧人那里受咒诅的很深,我讲这话不单单讲给我们的弟兄姐妹,也讲给这些网上的朋友们。如果你听到这话,回去查考《圣经》,牧人受神的咒诅很深的。 如果你问我为什么全教会的全职同工里面,得癌症的比例这么高。很简单,因为没有照着神的心意去牧养神的群羊,照着神的心意去牧养神的群羊,把人从魔鬼里释放出来,我们还要做一件事,就是对付属肉体的恶习。

**疾病的根本在于人偏行己路,圣灵和肉体的情欲相争,顺着肉体的情欲必收败坏,顺着圣灵收永生。**灵里不兴盛怎么可能不生病呢?今天开始揣摩我说的话,人属肉体不对付是很要命的。 曾经我去过一个地方,本来是去看产业的,见到那个地方的牧师,给教会的会友包饺子,我去的那天刚好有一件令从难过的事发生。其中一个会友把牧师和师母骂了一顿,为什么呢?因为想吃鱼肉馅的饺子,包的是猪肉馅的饺子。结果牧师和师母跟我一边说,一边流眼泪。这叫做牧养吗?这叫做体贴肉体,用体贴肉体的方式牧养神的群羊,羊已经很体贴肉体了,牧者更体贴肉体,能不招罪吗? 这事要换作是我,就像我小时候,妈:“我想吃麻花,”我妈就拿两个手指头,在我脸蛋拧了一下很疼,这就是麻花。其实小子长大了以后就挺乖,也挺孝顺。

在我们当中如果你是一个体贴肉体的妈妈,我猜你大概老了要招罪。体贴肉体是败坏人的,教会不能这干,他煮饺子给他们吃,以前我整烧鸡,酱牛肉,后来发现不是建立教会的办法,靠这种办法吸引到的都是吃货。今天我们吸引的就是有命定的人,跟我一起来建造神得胜的教会,释放被掳的百姓,彰显神的荣耀,成为这个世代的祝福。 我在想:“体贴肉体的牧师牧养一群体贴肉体的羊,怎么可能得胜呢?”怎么可能解决问题呢?问题越解决越多。还有,体贴肉牧师牧养体贴肉体的会友,这事相当的普遍。有一年一个牧师看我网站建的好,他就来找我,问我能不能帮他建网站,我说:“你们教会比我大十倍。”我们小猫几三只,你为什么不找你们教会的会友帮你建网站?他说:“他们不要干啊!”那我凭什么给你干呢? 再后来我们当中有一个姐妹就跟我说:“您这里要求比较高。“因为那个时候我对付她肉体比较狠,你不对付她,她能得释放吗?她是迫害妄想症、恐惧症和肮脏病,那你不对付她的肉体,释放完了再来,来了再释放,啥时候是个头啊?我服侍了她足足八年的时间。 我在她身上恩典很多的,她有脚气,我就抱着她的臭脚祷告,脚好了;她的肮脏病带着祷告好了,妄想症也祷告好了。我服侍她付出了很多代价,然后我推着她去牧养,她说:“像你们这样服侍,我做不到,我要早点睡觉,第二天要上班。”我服侍她的时候,我服侍到四点谁管呢?我七八点还要起来上班,结果她说:“我不能像你这样。”有一天她就跟我商量,要去另外一个教会看看,那个教会就是找我建网站的教会。我说:“你去了,就不要回来了。”我这话说的也有点重,你以为我这里是啥呢?想来就来,想走就走,**我这里是神的军队,打属灵仗的地方,是可以打仗的。**

过了一段时间,她找我喝茶,我问她:“你怎么样啦?”她说:“好呀。”我说那当然好了,体贴肉体的牧师,服侍体贴肉体的羊是在合适不过了,我说的有点冲,但是于你们是有益的,我没有任何东西避讳不说的,我做这事就是希望可以牧养神的群羊。 牧养破除肉体是非常重要的,如果教会不破除人的肉体,网站也没有人建立,这种事情很多。我们教会录音转文字,大家都玩命干,我的一个好朋友做事工,花钱请人转文字,这能一样吗?我让你录音转文字是要祝福你,不是剥削你,因为对付了人的肉体。有的时候,我们管理文字事工,有点苛刻的,速记必须在规定时间完成的,你不好好干,我们还不带你的。 我们教会对付人的肉体有两下子,牧养一定要把神的话吃进去, 后来我发现做文字事工,录音转文字的人,把我的讲道听了一遍又一遍,对他们来讲是很好的造就,根基打得很好。录音转文字的事工几乎落实到每一个弟兄姐妹,要让你吃透,不玩假的。不然我讲了一遍,你听了一遍,从左耳边进有,右耳朵出也没有用。

这是第一个医治释放,第二是破除肉体,对付肉体我们有一系列的方法。对付肉体我们就讲到这里,第三个就是读神的话语,喂养神的群羊,让神的羊可以吃饱。你知道这事多重要吗?作为一般的说,教会带着全体查经的不多,我们一章章地查。就我们网站的查经录音,就够你听很长时间了,网站上的录音我们都免费供应,点击量很高。**我们把粮食撒在水面上,喂养神的群羊。** 有时候我们网站出现一点小故障的时候,我们小助手的微信电话就都爆了,有一个人就这么说:“你们网站什么时候能好?我们带领查经要用。”这家伙用了也不付费,不过也没关系,我愿意祝福他。不过有一些东西可以用我的网站喂养你的羊,但是轮到我们牧者付代价这事你可以做吗?付代价这事很重要,你如果不能付代价,只是嘴巴功夫,你自己都不信,不去落实,那你下面的人听了以后,能感受到什么呢? 所以,我把医治释放放在了牧养的第一位,这也体现你对羊的关心。如果你的羊有问题,比如腰疼、腿疼、头疼,你能否感受到他们的痛苦呢?要不要把他们从疾病当中释放出来呢?这就是我们为什么在医治释放投入大量的功夫。 在我认识的教会当中,我们教会做医治释放是一流的,我们教会弟兄姐妹做的比很多教会同工做的都厉害,因为我们传讲神的话。我讲的都是我亲身经历的,我不是用别人的抬举自己,我就是要抬举耶稣,主耶稣的心意要得着满足。如果世上在兴起一千个一万个像我一样的牧者,也服侍不完,**我想神拣选了我,让我服侍祂的百姓、神的群羊,我就照着祂的心意去做。**

传讲神的话,我们就有一系列查考《圣经》的逻辑体系。包括前几天我们也在说这个事,今天我再说,**查考《圣经》的目的是为了让人能够落实。**比如很多人得忧郁症,是识别善恶和体贴肉体的具体体现,把识别善恶和体贴肉体对付掉,忧郁症就会好了,我们有的是招,有的是办法。 查考《圣经》就是为了落实,读了神的话就要去行,我们把书分为两类:第一类,叫做“经书”,《圣经》就是经书,高度地概括了属灵的规律,高度浓缩了神的心意,我们讲道也好,查经也罢,开课程也好,我们需要做的是落实神的话,落实叫做论,《圣经》是经。 读《圣经》是为了落实,实际上,我是为了落实来教导大家。如果你在我们当中被牧养,你会发现我们跟的有点紧,天天盯着你写笔记、参加聚会。有人就问我:“你是不是整了一大堆托儿,写笔记有写得这么快的吗?”我们就是这么训练人的,一边听一边记,讲完了笔记也记完了。只听不记,到最后都漏完了。做了笔记,可能还能记住一点;如果不做笔记,到最后什么也记不住。

我们教会有一系列查经的逻辑体系:第一,就是落实。**牧养就是跟进一个人落实的情况。**比如有一个姐妹脾气不太好,从小脾气就有点小火爆,身上有小火龙的灵。信主后,虽然火爆的脾气好了很多,但根还没除去,没释放,火爆的脾气还没改。因为落实神的话落实的不够。 还有个姐妹一遇到问题就退缩,一旦被我盯上了,我就跟进到底。有一些弟兄姐妹不是我们的同工,有些弟兄姐妹稍微有点福气,我直接参与服侍。还有直接给我微信发信息的,我的微信经常爆掉,对不起,有的时候就被漏掉了。弟兄姐妹有问题就找你自己的牧者,我一个人实在顾不了那么多。 对我直接服侍的弟兄姐妹,我对付他的肉体,对付得淋漓尽致,就专门对付他落实的情况。 这个姐妹一遇到问题就退缩,从小学、初中、高中,一直到大学都是这样,现在上班了,一样的问题,还是一遇到问题就退缩。 但是今天神真的很恩待我,我遇到问题基本上不退缩,这就是为什么我们当中医治释放的果效这么好。不管遇到什么样的困难,我不会退下去。有的医治释放需要三个月,有的花半年,还有的用一年,牧养更是如此,所以,我们当中的弟兄姐妹开始逐渐的纳入到牧养的体系当中来。

如果你在群里,还没有进入我们的牧养体系里的,你可以联系小助手,跟小助手说“我很想被牧养。”如果你想被牧养,我们就牧养你。不是我们从大街上随便抓一个人过来,就要牧养人家,我们不干这事。但如果我们牧养你,是有言在先的,你肯定会成长,但成长是需要付点代价的。 我们对付你身上的恶习是绝对不会留情面的,有的弟兄姐妹从小到二十多岁,三十多岁,到四十多岁,一件事情都没做成过,都是稀里糊涂的走过来,能有信心吗?就算有信心,这个信心也是假的,没关系,我们可以建造你的信心,我们跟你走一程。 今天我们就被呼召做这件事,就是把所有爱主的,信主的弟兄姐妹,把他们塑造起来,成为服侍这个时代的人,成为牧养神群羊的人,成为喂养神的小羊的人。 一个刚出生的婴儿虽然只有七八斤重,拉屎、拉尿、喂奶就得有人付很大的代价照顾。只生孩子不养孩子,是很恶劣的。如果一个人爱耶稣,就听耶稣说的话“你牧养我的羊”,耶稣没说过别的。爱神的人,神是知道的。**神为爱他的人,预备的是眼睛未曾看见,耳朵未曾听见的,然后心里未曾想过的。**因为爱祂的,就必牧养神的群羊,神为爱他的人开辟的是一条丰盛的路。

为什么要牧养呢?因为牧养是与神同工。我们在世上活着,如果不把活着这事看透了,我们就会为自己活;如果我们看透了,我们就会为神活,就会爱神爱到癫狂的地步,然后我们就肯定会付很沉重的代价,牧养神的群羊。 如果我们牧养神的群羊,能得不着神的恩赐吗?神给你的属灵的恩赐,就是为了牧养神的群羊。所以我反对有的人闲着没事,躲在一个小屋子里祷告求异象,求恩赐,亲近神。不是先有恩赐,是先有服侍的心,然后恩赐才会给你。 神为什么随己意把恩赐分给各人呢?因为神是照着人的渴慕赐给人恩赐。人如果不渴慕,光等候能等来什么呢?等死吗?今天要开始知道,爱神就牧养神的群羊,一生就会活得非常的精彩。如果你想活得精彩,就与神同行。你所说的,你所做的,神都必帮助你。 撒母耳长大了,耶和华与他同在,使他所说的话一句都不落空。(《撒母耳记上》3:19) 所以从今天开始,我鼓励我们当中的弟兄姐妹,如果你想一生活出神一样的精彩,想活出神一样的荣耀,你就开始牧养神的群羊,我们会有一系列的训练,训练你如何牧养,是一个个性化的训练。今天我们就讲到这儿,下一次我们再具体的说如何牧养?

你听我讲东西,你会发现,我通常都会有一个比较清晰的框架,就是我会讲到“什么是牧养”、“为什么要做牧养”、“怎么做牧养”,以及“在牧养中如何使用具体的策略”这几个话题。牧养是个很大的话题,今天咱们就先讲到“如何做牧养”以及“为什么要做牧养”这两个话题。 愿神祝福大家,在接下来的日子里,仔细揣摩我说说的。如果你再去看教会,就看得清楚了:这个教会有牧养,那个教会没有牧养,我的教会是这样,人家的教会是那样。今天我们就是探讨了一下圣经里说的牧养应该是什么样子。如果一旦本末倒置,那就麻烦了。 这方面的故事那就多了:有一次我去一个地方参加会议,本来不想讲,人家非要让我上台讲,我就讲了一个“尽心尽性尽意尽力爱主你的神,好牧养神的群羊”。这个题目不讲还好,一讲以后,底下听的牧师全都对号入座,那叫一个难受啊。因为他们的会友也在那儿,一听我讲的,一看:哎呀,我的牧师没有牧养,那就难受啊。但牧养这个话题,我不能不讲啊! 所以弟兄姐妹们,如果你今天是从别的教会来的,那我不太希望你成为我教会的会友,我也不太需要这个。但是我希望地上所有的教会,都能够进到神的心意里,尽心尽性尽意尽力爱主我们的神,好好牧养神所托付他们的群羊,那真是让人心满意足的事儿啊!我们的神在天上也会得安慰啊! 愿神祝福大家!
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