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【Bible Study】Exodus Chapter 33 – Seeking God's Presence, Seeking God's Face, Seeking God's Glory!

2022-04-27 26,855 Exodus Calamity Grace Received Dreams Imitation Seeking Selfishness

Introduction

Greetings! Exodus Chapter 33 is a truly remarkable chapter. Why do I say this? Because the truths revealed in this chapter surpass the importance of many others. Comparing it to our lives as Christians, you will find that there are two types of Christians: those who constantly face calamities and those who find favour in God's eyes. In this chapter, these two types of Christians are clearly depicted. I have titled this chapter: Seeking God's Presence, Seeking God's Face, Seeking God's Glory.

Consider this: what are we truly seeking when we believe in the Lord? I have come to realise that seeking God's presence and God's glory has become the mainstream among us. It is no easy feat to achieve this. In most churches today, you will see pastors praying for someone's permanent residency, for their job, for finding a boyfriend, and so on. They seek all sorts of things!

I must say in all honesty that there are very few who seek God's presence, God's face, and God's glory. Because they are few, they are precious in God's eyes! People seek different things and receive different things. Are the things you seek rubbish or treasures in God's eyes? Does God consider these things good or bad? Let us share this bit by bit. Initially, God commanded Moses, saying:

Then the Lord said to Moses, “Leave this place, you and the people you brought up out of Egypt, and go up to the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, saying, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I will send an angel before you and drive out the Canaanites, Amorites, Hittites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites. Go up to the land flowing with milk and honey. But I myself will not go with you, because you are a stiff-necked people and I might destroy you on the way.” (Exodus 33:1-3)

Is this what people seek? Brothers and sisters, ask yourselves, do you simply want a good life? Do you simply want to go to a land flowing with milk and honey? The question is, can you even get there? If believing in the Lord is just for a land flowing with milk and honey, just to live well, then there is trouble! Those who believe in the Lord should seek imperishable glory. Brothers and sisters, where is your level? You may not understand when you first come to church, but that is alright. I will explain it to you now.

When did the Lord say He would lead them into a land flowing with milk and honey? It was after the Israelites made the golden calf and idols. Moses was truly exhausted at this time. After Moses came down from the mountain, he was quite disappointed with the Israelites. If God said to Moses, "Look! These are the people you brought out of Egypt," I would feel ashamed if I heard that, because they look like misfits. What I mean by misfits is that they don't look right. Actually, I learned this phrase from someone else.

Once, a pastor among us who is in charge of ministry said, "Look, the people he shepherds are all a bunch of misfits, and the church he shepherds is also a misfit church." As for whether that is the case, I tell you, I also think it is a misfit. Now, God sees these Israelites as misfits too. What if God feels ashamed of these people? Pass the buck to Moses: "These are the people you brought out; it has little to do with me." If our God has this attitude towards us, then there is trouble. Why is this so?

God just wants to bring them in quickly and be done with it, leaving the rest to the Israelites' own devices. "You can do whatever you want! Anyway, I promised it to Abraham. From now on, I will get you all in there. After you get in, you can do whatever you want." God dusts Himself off, claps His hands, brushes off the dust, and slips away! Is this God's plan? Yes, it is! Do not think that God is looking for a bunch of misfits. God is looking for treasures!

Why did God promise Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Because Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob sought God's presence, sought God's face, and sought imperishable glory! These people were not worthy of this world. So when God mentions them, He says He is the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob. It feels so good to say that! I am the self-existent God, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, the God of Jacob. How wonderful! But when some people are mentioned, oh dear, quickly, quickly, for Abraham's sake, shove them in. Anyway, it's okay to shove these misfits in!

Do not think that God has this attitude. Actually, I have this attitude too. Do not think that I want everyone here. I do not want everyone. I only want to bring those who want to seek God's face, seek God's presence, and seek God's glory into God's kingdom! These words are not my own. I read them in the Bible, where Jesus said this.

See What People Seek

“Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. (Matthew 13:47-48)

Are you ashamed of the gospel, or do you glory in it? The Apostle Paul said, "I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God, the glory of God!" So what do you want? If you do not want God's presence, God says, "I will not go with you. I will send someone to lead you in, but I myself will not go with you. I do not want to mix with you people, getting all dishevelled, a bunch of misfits." When God brought the Israelites out of Egypt, they experienced so much of God's mighty arm, unprecedented miracles, and God's power was constantly manifested, bringing them out of Egypt.

Brothers and sisters, you must know that if you have experienced God's power, experienced God's healing, experienced God's salvation, and still do not seek God's presence, what kind of mind is that? Someone had cancer, and after I prayed, his illness was basically cured. As a result, he wanted to enjoy life! But his illness was not completely cured yet. He thought, "I escaped from the gates of hell this time. I have seen through the brevity of life. I must fulfil my life's desires. I must travel around the world." After travelling around the world, he came back and died. I said, "What kind of mind is that?" It was God who healed him!

All who have experienced God's power, if they do not seek God's presence, God's face, and God's glory, and only have their eyes on these lands flowing with milk and honey, how stiff-necked are they! I have a small fear: the seriously ill patients I serve, they have experienced much suffering and calamity, experienced God's mighty salvation, but their minds are still filled with those things—business, work, money—and they do not want God's presence!

How important is God's presence? Without God's presence, how can you win the battle? Without God's presence, your eyes are only on that land flowing with milk and honey. Can you live well? The answer is no. All who have experienced God's power and still are self-righteous, going their own way according to their own will, are like these misfits, a stiff-necked people in God's eyes. When you are a stiff-necked people, God says:

But I myself will not go with you, because you are a stiff-necked people and I might destroy you on the way.” (Exodus 33:3)

Some people say, "Aren't you always saying that it is the Spirit that gives life, and people live by every word that comes from the mouth of God, so they can live well, right?" You might say, "I am living quite well now! There is nothing wrong!" There is nothing wrong, but the problem is that it is not the word of God! Everyone gradually understands that if you are seeking the land flowing with milk and honey, if your eyes are only on milk and honey, you may not even get in! Not only will you not get in, but you may die in the wilderness.

God Will Destroy You on the Way He Leads You

God will destroy you on the way He leads you. Brothers and sisters, think carefully. I have seen many such Christians, far too many. Sometimes I worry about these people. What are you pursuing? If you are a stiff-necked misfit, God will destroy you on the way. This is what the Bible says. Do you think God will not destroy you?

Of the six hundred thousand Israelites written here, only Joshua and Caleb entered the Promised Land. Only two people out of six hundred thousand entered. Don't you think this ratio is too small, too tragic? How dare people go against God? You build a church, neither seeking God's presence nor seeking God's face, only saying it with your mouth, but everything you actually do is not the word of God. I am very surprised! When the people heard this bad news, they began to mourn.

So tell the Israelites, ‘You are a stiff-necked people. If I were to go with you even for a moment, I might destroy you. Now take off your ornaments and I will decide what to do with you.’ (Exodus 33:5)

Aren't you seeking a good life? "Look, isn't my earring beautiful? Look, isn't my necklace beautiful? Look, isn't this beautiful?" I think it is just showing off. The problem is that people's minds are filled with this. What can you do? Fortunately, God does not often come upon you in an instant!

I want to remind everyone that among the people I have seen, many start to experience calamities as they live—one moment they get cancer, the next moment the cancer recurs, the next moment their business has problems, the next moment they get into lawsuits, the next moment things do not go smoothly, and they are constantly dealing with smoky messes. Businessmen's minds are filled with their business all day long; workers' minds are filled with their work all day long; housewives' minds are filled with their husbands all day long, making their lives smoky messes. What is the result? If you do not seek God's presence, do you think you can escape calamity when you encounter it? Can you live through this?

Recently, I just saw a helper receive a Christian who has believed in the Lord for twenty years. His life is really hard! After being a Christian for twenty years, all he has sought is calamity. It is all tears to talk about it. Is that the life people live? Is that what a Christian should be like? It is constant calamity! I really hope that everyone can fear God! If a person becomes a Christian and is still a misfit Christian, if God comes upon you, it is barely tolerable if He is not with you; but if God suddenly comes upon you, it is calamity after calamity. Do you say that the calamity does not come from God? Where does it come from? So you cannot be a misfit Christian. If you are going to be a Christian, be a resounding Christian. We have no other choice.

Otherwise, you might as well become a monk or build a temple, shave your head and become a nun or a monk, or build a Taoist temple and refine an elixir. You can do whatever you want! If you are a Christian and do not seek God's presence, and you are always thinking about the land flowing with milk and honey, and you are always talking about these things, God sees you as a misfit. If you do not seek God's presence, and God suddenly is with you, it is calamity after calamity. Do you say this is life-threatening?

So sometimes I tell everyone that I suffer when I serve people. Telling the truth offends people, and not telling the truth does not edify them. If I deceive them, I will deceive myself. I will end up with cancer like other pastors. That will not do! I do not care what happens; I will tell you the truth. Can you understand this account if we tell the truth? If a Christian does not seek God's presence, and God is with him, it is calamity after calamity. What is this doing? So many years ago, when I became a Christian, I felt that being a Christian was quite risky! Isn't it? So Moses is amazing. Moses' taste and pattern are beyond our imagination.

Learning from Moses' Pursuit

If you want to be a certain type of person, it is quite easy; just do whatever you want. But if you don't want to be that way, you must learn from Moses' pursuit. Let me explain it to you. Moses was remarkable. The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Every time I read this, I deeply admire Moses.

Moses said to the Lord, “You have been telling me, ‘Lead these people up,’ but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. You have said, ‘I know you by name and you have found favor in my eyes.’ If you are pleased with me, teach me your ways so I may know you and continue to find favor with you. Remember that this nation is your people.” The Lord replied, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” Then Moses said to him, “If your Presence does not go with us, do not send us up from here. How will anyone know that you and I have found favor in your eyes unless you go with us? What else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth?” (Exodus 33:12-16)

You may not have fully grasped this, so let me explain it a bit. God said to Moses, "I know you by name, and you have found favor in my eyes." This favor God showed to Moses was a personal favor to him! It was about Moses himself, whom God knew by name and who had found favor in His eyes. As for those misfits, we won't talk about them. What was so remarkable about Moses? Moses was not seeking favor for himself.

Christians can be very selfish, selfish to an outrageous extent! I don't know how many selfish Christians there are among you, but I am working hard to change this situation. If Moses had only cared about himself, he would have thought, "Oh! God knows me by name, very good, really thank the Lord! I have found favor in God's eyes, oh! Look at you misfits, see how good I am, I have already found favor." How selfish that would be.

Many Christians have no Mingding Destiny, only selfishness and greed, seeking only their own trivial matters. My work, my studies, my grades—all your petty concerns, and God will categorize you among the misfits. Brothers and sisters, why should we follow the path of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? They didn't place much importance on their own trivial lives. Because Abraham sought to be a blessing to all nations on earth, Isaac and Jacob sought to be a blessing to all nations on earth; they were all people with Mingding Destiny. If you listen to my study of Genesis, you will see that even Tamar having children from Judah was due to Mingding Destiny. Are you gradually understanding this?

Selfishness is a very critical issue for Christians. Let's put it this way: whom have you served or blessed in the past year? Whom have you blessed or served in the past month? What are you thinking about in your heart? I must warn everyone, if you come to believe in the Lord just to enter a land flowing with milk and honey, to receive God's promises and blessings, that is not the goal. Do you understand? I have said this before, but I also said that it is a byproduct, a critical choice!

I will correct as many as I can. If you haven't experienced enough disasters and know you are a misfit, quickly repent and become a proper fruit. Start becoming a person with Mingding Destiny, for there is no blessing outside of Mingding Destiny. Selfishness is definitely not a solution to problems, and it is definitely not how a Christian should be.

So Moses was not satisfied with God saying, "I know you by name, and you have found favor in my eyes." Moses said, "Teach me your ways so I may know you and continue to find true favor with you." Do you understand? The latter favor is not the same as the former favor. The former favor is personal, while the latter favor is about leading God's people, leading them to become God's people. Then God said:

The Lord replied, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.” Then Moses said to him, “If your Presence does not go with us, do not send us up from here. How will anyone know that you and I have found favor in your eyes unless you go with us? What else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth?” (Exodus 33:14-16)

As for those misfits, let them see what their fate will be. What a heart, what a vision! You must also have such a vision, and even if you don't, you must create one. Always saying, "My grades are not as good as his; my ministry is not as good as his; Pastor, you are not as good to me as you are to him"—what kind of vision is that? Your mind is full of evil. Do you want to be a misfit? I must remind everyone, it is easy to be a misfit; you don't have to do anything, just follow your nature. Moses had such a vision; Moses sought God.

I deeply know God's heart. Sometimes, dealing with people, especially those with a pastoral background, is very tiring. Deep down, I really hope that thousands of Chinese Mingding Destiny rise up. I will do one if I can, two if I can. I painstakingly tell people, but they respond: "You have your interpretation, I have mine; you have your pursuit, I have mine; you have your way of doing things, I have mine." I am not hurt, why am I not hurt? Because no matter what they say, I will bless one if I can, two if I can; this is my Mingding Destiny.

Actually, every time I hear that a pastor has ruined a church, I feel very sad. A few years ago, I met a pastor, and I taught him step by step. I bought a plane ticket to go see him. I paid for the plane ticket and hotel myself, and then spent a long time in the hotel, teaching him lesson by lesson. In the end, he ruined the church himself. Why? He turned the church into a club. Did I not know he was that kind of person? Of course I knew, but I was sad. I didn't gloat, I didn't think, "The members of their church can come to us now." I didn't; I was very sad.

Isn't our Mingding Destiny to be a blessing to many people? Everyone must know that the path I am leading you on is a path to becoming a blessing to many, not a path to being blessed. The path to becoming a blessing to many is the path to being blessed. Many times, what we say doesn't really count, but we do what we can. My colleagues often tell me, "Teacher, cast your bread upon the waters, for after many days you will find it again." I serve these people, and no matter how busy I am, I make time to serve them. What am I after? I am after God's heart being satisfied. I am learning from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Moses. When I see these figures, I am deeply moved. I don't say, "God, destroy them, let them fail quickly!" This is not God's heart.

How will anyone know that you and I have found favor in your eyes unless you go with us? What else will distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth? (Exodus 33:16)

God's presence is so important. How can God be with a stingy person, a person without vision? If you really value God's presence, you must know what kind of person God is with. So everyone must start thinking about these words of Moses, which are very meaningful. Because you are with us, you distinguish me and your people from all the other people on the face of the earth, so that we are different from them, we are your people. As a result, God said to Moses:

And the Lord said, “I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you and I know you by name.” (Exodus 33:17)

This time it is not something else, it is really like this, God will do as Moses asked, so that he may receive greater grace. What kind of person is Moses? Moses is the greatest prophet in history, deeply understanding God's heart. Then Moses sought these things, and God said: "I will do the very thing you have asked, because I am pleased with you." It is because what Moses asked pleased God, was in accordance with God's heart, and was exactly what God wanted, just like the ancient emperors said, "It is exactly what I want." But Moses was still not satisfied.

Then Moses said, “Now show me your glory.” (Exodus 33:18)

Moses further sought, Moses sought God's face, God's glory. Do you know what kind of person would seek this? What kind of person would seek God's presence? Seek God's glory? Seek God's face? It is only those who have seen through the matter of living that would seek this. If a person cannot see through the matter of living, he will not seek this, but only seek to eat well, drink well, and live well. A land flowing with milk and honey is good, but it is also a temptation. If all these worldly dreams are not broken, what people seek is only worldly dreams.

There is a businessman who seeks all day long to expand his business, business, business! As a result, he owes the bank a lot of money. The bank will not joke with you; if you can pay it back, you must pay it back; if you can't pay it back, you must still pay it back. In the end, they will bankrupt you. Brothers and sisters, if our lives in this world are all vanity, would we still be so serious? If we seek only milk and honey through God, it is a very troublesome thing. Because you have made milk and honey your god. If a person knows that this is a byproduct, walks in God's presence through God's heart, all these byproducts will be added to him. The New Testament also says:

But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. (Matthew 6:33)

Once, a person called me and asked if I could pray for his money. I couldn't find an example of praying for money in the Bible. Someone said that his house was going to be rented out, and asked me to pray for his house, so that he could find good tenants. What are we asking for these things for? Someone said that he had three businesses, and asked me to pray for him, asking for a confirmation, to see which one he should do? You want to do whichever one you want to do. The things you are asking for are so low!

Someone said to quickly pray for his family's child, that his family would have a child. I have to tell you, what are you asking for that for? Later, I thought, if a child with Down syndrome is born, wouldn't that become my burden? Someone said that he has three jobs now, which job should he do? Is this important? It is very important to you, but it is not important to me at all. Compared to God's presence, everything in the world pales in comparison. Brothers and sisters, sometimes I am embarrassed to refuse you, but you must know what I mean.

What Moses sought was to see God's face. Why is it so good to see God's face? A person lives in this world for seventy or eighty years, living to seek God's face. Are you seeking the face of the King of Hell? Don't live your whole life seeing the face of the King of Hell. In the King of Hell's courtyard, there are several big pots, some frying twisted dough sticks, two people twisted together to fry; some frying fried dough sticks, two stuck together to fry; some frying fried cakes, piled together to fry. Think about it slowly. I am not cursing you; the Bible says so. If you are stiff-necked, you ask for your own things, and what you ask for is nothing but disaster. The disasters you have experienced in the past have already proven a lot.

Summary

Seeking God's glory, seeking God's face, seeking God's presence, this is not just for this life, but for all eternity. Some people say that this way is very difficult. In our Bible study, many times when I preach, I preach many people away. I think it is good to preach people away! You have come to the wrong place. I must tell you that this place is to seek God's presence, to seek God's face, to seek God's glory. In this place, if you want to get Singapore citizenship, permanent residency, or find a job, this place has God's blessing, but after you find the blessing, go do what you need to do. This place has God's grace, but if you only have God's grace in your eyes, it is troublesome.

Brothers and sisters, I am determined to lead everyone into Mingding Destiny, which is that we will always enter into eternal glory. As Christians, we must be careful that these stiff-necked people are killed in the wilderness. Even if they take off their earrings and decorations, they cannot escape God's killing them in the wilderness.

Brothers and sisters, do you say that what I am preaching is difficult? It is difficult and it is not difficult. It depends on what you choose to want. If this is not what you want, then go seek what you want. Aren't there many different kinds of churches and gospels waiting for you to choose? If a person has experienced enough, should we wake up and ask ourselves what we are seeking? I have finally come into this world, what should I seek?

What Moses sought, I also seek. Moses sought God's Mingding Destiny, and God was with him, and God called him by his name and showed him grace. Those who sought a land flowing with milk and honey did not enter the land flowing with milk and honey in the end. Isn't this a tragedy? Do you say that Exodus 33 is very sobering? Brothers and sisters, reopen our vision, what exactly are we seeking? Establish the foundation of what we seek, unshakable, no matter what happens, still seek God's glory.

But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.” Then the Lord said, “There is a place near me where you may stand on a rock. When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by. Then I will remove my hand and you will see my back; but my face must not be seen.” (Exodus 33:20-23)

Although Moses could not see God's face or God's glory, he was still seeking, and God showed him a glimpse of His back. I hope that one day, God can reveal and manifest this word to us. Finally, I will ask everyone one more question: what are you seeking?

May God bless everyone!

Reflection Questions

  1. With what kind of people does God not dwell? ()
    A: Selfish and stingy people
    B: People without vision
    C: People who do not understand God's heart
    D: Those who pursue God's presence
    E: Those who pursue God's glory

  2. God promises that we will enter a land flowing with milk and honey. Is that land flowing with milk and honey our goal?

  3. After listening to Exodus 33, have you begun to realize: what were we seeking before? What should we seek now?

  4. What kind of Christians are misfit Christians? What will be the result? How can we avoid being a misfit Christian?

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大家好!《出埃及记》第三十三章,是非常奇妙的一章,为什么这么说呢?这章所启示的真理,其重要性超过了其它很多章节。对照一下我们基督徒的生活,**你会发现基督徒的生活有两种,一种是灾祸不断的基督徒;另外一种就是在神面前蒙恩的基督徒。** 在这一章的里面,这两种基督徒被描述得清清楚楚。我把这一章的主题定成:寻求神的同在、寻求神的面、寻求神的荣耀。 大家去思考这件事,就是我们信主到底是在寻求什么?我逐渐地知道,寻求神的同在和神的荣耀,成为了我们当中的主流。能形成这样的事情,是非常不容易的。现在的教会你普遍看到的是,牧师为一个人的永久居住证祷告、为工作祷告、为找男朋友祷告等等,寻求什么的都有! 我必须说句良心话,寻求神的同在、寻求神的面、寻求神的荣耀的人真不多。既然不多,在神眼里就是宝贝!人寻求的东西不一样,得到的东西也就不一样。你所寻求的东西,在神眼里是垃圾还是宝贝呢?神认为这个事情是好的还是不好的呢?我们一点一点来分享。一开始神吩咐摩西说:

**耶和华吩咐摩西说:我曾起誓应许亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各说:要将迦南地赐给你的后裔。现在你和你从埃及地所领出来的百姓,要从这里往那地去。我要差遣使者在你前面,撵出迦南人、亚摩利人、赫人、比利洗人、希未人、耶布斯人,领你到那流奶与蜜之地。我自己不同你们上去;因为你们是硬着颈项的百姓,恐怕我在路上把你们灭绝。(《出埃及记》33:1-3)** 这是人的寻求吗?弟兄姐妹问问你自己,是不是就想过好日子?就想去流奶与蜜之地?问题是你去得了吗?如果说信主就是为了流奶与蜜之地,就是为了能够活得好,那就麻烦了!**信主的人是要去寻求那不能朽坏的荣耀,** 弟兄姐妹你的高度在哪里呢?可能你刚来教会还听不懂,但是听不懂不要紧,这个时候我就解释给你听。 耶和华什么时候说的,要领他们进入流奶与蜜之地呢?是从以色列人造了金牛犊和偶像的时候开始的。这个时候的摩西真的非常辛苦,当摩西从山上下来,经过这一轮后,对以色列人也挺失望的。如果神对摩西说,你看!这是你从埃及带出来的人。假如是我听了神说的这话,也会觉得丢人,因为看着就是歪瓜裂枣。所谓歪瓜裂枣就是看着就不像样子,其实这句话我还是跟别人学的。 有一次咱们当中负责事工的一个牧者说,你看,他牧养的人,都是一群歪瓜裂枣,牧养的教会也是歪瓜裂枣的教会。至于是不是那么回事?我跟大家讲,我看了也觉得是个歪瓜裂枣。那现在神看到这些以色列的百姓,也都是歪瓜裂枣的。如果神看这些百姓也觉得丢人,怎么办?甩锅给摩西,这是你领出来的,跟我没有多大关系。如果我们的神跟我们也是这种态度,那就麻烦了,为什么会这样呢?

神就想赶紧把他们带进去算了,剩下的就看这群以色列人自己的造化了。你们愿意怎么样,就怎么样吧!反正是我应许给亚伯拉罕的,从现在开始我给你们整进去了,进去以后,你们想怎么样就怎么样。神就拍拍屁股、拍拍手、拍拍身上的灰尘,脚底抹油,溜了!这是神的打算吗?这是的!你千万不要以为神是想找一群歪瓜裂枣,神是在寻找宝贝! 为什么神曾经应许亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各?**因为亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各是寻求神的同在,寻求神的面,寻求那不能朽坏的荣耀**!这些人都是这世上不配有的人,所以神一提起他们,就说自己是亚伯拉罕的神、以撒的神、雅各的神,一说就觉得很爽,很舒服!**我就是自有永有的神,就是亚伯拉罕的神、以撒的神、雅各的神**,多好啊!那一提某些人,哎呀,赶紧赶紧,因着亚伯拉罕的缘故给他怼进去,反正这些歪瓜裂枣怼进去就算了! 你别以为神是这态度,实际上我也是这个态度。你千万不要以为在我这里什么人都要,我可不想什么人都要,我只想把那些想寻求神的面,寻求神的同在,寻求神的荣耀的这些人,一起带进神的国度里!这话不是我想出来的,是我读《圣经》的时候,耶稣这么说的。

**天国又好像网撒在海里,聚拢各样水族。网既满了,人就拉上岸来。坐下,拣好的收在器具里,将不好的丢弃了。(《马太福音13:47-48)** 你是以福音为耻,还是以福音为荣呢?**使徒保罗说:我不以这福音为耻!因为这福音正是神的大能,神的荣耀!**所以你要的是什么?如果你要的不是神的同在。神说,我不与你们同去,我派个人领你们进去,我自己不同你们上去,我不想与你们这些人混在一起,弄得灰头土脸,整一群歪瓜裂枣。神把以色列人从埃及地带出来的时候,他们经过了这么多神大能的膀臂,经过了前所未有的神迹奇事,神的大能不断地彰显,把他们从埃及带出来。 弟兄姐妹要知道,**如果你经历了神的大能,经历了神的医治,经历了神的拯救,然后仍然不寻求神的同在,这是什么脑袋呢**?有个人得了癌症,我祷告后,他的病基本都好了。结果呢,人家要好好享受生活!可他这病还没有完全好啊。人家认为,我这回生病,从鬼门关逃回来的,我看透了人生之短,我可得满足一生的心愿啊,我得到世界各地溜达着玩。这溜达着玩了一圈,回来就死了。我就说这是什么脑袋呢?那是神医治的他啊! 凡是经历过神的权能,如果不去寻求神的同在、神的面、神的荣耀,眼里只有这些流奶与蜜的地方。这样的人颈项要有多硬,掰都掰不过来啊!我有个小小的恐惧,服侍的重病患者,他们经历了很多苦难和灾祸,经历了神的大能拯救,满脑子想的还是那些东西,生意、工作、钱财,就是不想要神的同在!

你说神的同在多重要,没有神的同在,你怎么能争战得胜?没有神的同在,你眼睛里全是要那流奶与蜜的地方,你能过得好吗?答案是不能。**凡是经过神的大能,仍然自以为是,照着自己的意思偏行己路的人,就像这些歪瓜裂枣,在神眼里就是硬着颈项的百姓**。当你做硬着颈项的百姓,神说: **我自己不同你们上去、因为你们是硬着颈项的百姓、恐怕我在路上把你们灭绝。(《出埃及记》33:3)** 有的人就说,你不是整天讲,让人活着的乃是灵,人活着是靠着神口里的一切话,这才能活得好,对吗?你可能会说,我现在也活得挺好啊!也没毛病啊!是没毛病,但问题那不是神的话啊!大家逐渐了解,**如果你寻求的就是流奶和蜜之地,你眼睛里头只有流奶和蜜,你可能还进不去呢!不但进不去,你可能还会死在旷野**。

神要在领你去的路上灭绝你们,弟兄姐妹仔细琢磨,我见过很多这样的基督徒,多得一塌糊涂。我有时候就为这些人提心吊胆,看你追求的是啥?**如果你是硬着颈项的歪瓜裂枣,神就在路上灭绝你们,这是《圣经》上说的,你以为神不灭绝?** 在这里所写的以色列六十万人,只有约书亚和迦勒进应许之地了。那六十万人里头只有两个人进去,你不觉得这比例太小了,太可悲了吗?人怎么就有胆子跟神对着干呢?你建立教会,既不寻求神的同在,也不寻求神的面,只是嘴巴上说,但真正干出来的全都不是神的话。我就是很诧异啊!百姓听见这凶信就悲哀。 **神对摩西说:你告诉以色列人说:耶和华说:你们是硬着颈项的百姓,我若一霎时临到你们中间,必灭绝你们,现在你们要把身上的妆饰摘下来,使我可以知道怎样待你们。《(出埃及记33:5)》**

你们不是寻求好日子吗?你看我戴个耳环美不美?你看我戴个项链美不美?你看我戴这个美不美?我看是臭美。问题是人满脑子想的就是这个,你说你怎么办呢?还好,神不经常一霎时临到你! 我给大家提个醒,在我所见到的这些人当中,很多人活着活着就开始经历灾祸,一会儿得了癌症、一会儿癌症又复发了、一会儿生意出现问题、一会儿又摊上官司了、一会儿又不顺利了,整天就整那乌烟瘴气的事。商人整天满脑子都是他的生意;工作人员满脑子都是他的工作;家庭妇女满脑子都是她老公,整得日子乌烟瘴气的。结果怎么样?你不寻求神的同在,你以为遇到灾祸你能逃过去吗?这日子你能过得去吗? 最近我刚刚看到小助手接待一个信主二十年的基督徒,那日子过得真是辛苦啊!做了二十年的基督徒,他寻求来的全是灾祸,说多了都是眼泪。那是人过的生活吗?那是基督徒应该有的样子吗?那是灾祸不断啊!我真的巴不得大家能够敬畏神!一个人做了基督徒,还做了一个歪瓜裂枣的基督徒。神如果临到你,不与你同在还勉强;如果神突然间临到你,那就是灾祸连连。你说那灾祸不是从神来,是从哪来的?**所以做基督徒可不能做歪瓜裂枣的基督徒,要做就做一个响当当的基督徒,咱没有别的选择。** 要不然你就干脆出家当和尚,或者是建个庙,剃发为尼、剃发为僧;或者整个道观,炼个仙丹什么的。你愿意干嘛干嘛去呗!你做个基督徒不寻求神的同在,又整天想着流奶与蜜之地,然后整天满脑子讲的都是这些东西,神看你是歪瓜裂枣。**如果你不寻求神的同在,神突然间与你同在了,灾祸连连,你说这要命不要命啊?** 所以有时候我告诉大家,我服侍人的时候痛苦啊,讲真话得罪人,不讲真话造就不了他。忽悠他的时候,把我自己给忽悠完了,我就跟其他牧师一样也混个癌症啥的,那哪行啊?我管你三七二十一,我跟你讲真话。咱们讲了真话,这账你能算明白吗?这基督徒不寻求神的同在,神一旦同在了就灾祸连连。你说这是在干啥呢?所以说很多年前我做了一个基督徒,我就觉得做基督徒这事,风险挺高啊!是不是?所以说摩西这个人厉害,摩西寻求的品味、格局都是超出我们想象的。

如果说你想做那样的人,挺容易的,随便整就行。但是如果你不想那样,你得学习摩西的寻求。我来给你解释一下,摩西这个人厉害,**耶和华与摩西面对面说话,好像人与朋友说话一般**。每次读到这个,我老羡慕摩西了。 **摩西对耶和华说:你吩咐我说:将这百姓领上去,却没有叫我知道你要打发谁与我同去,只说:我按你的名认识你,你在我眼前也蒙了恩。我如今若在你眼前蒙恩,求你将你的道指示我,使我可以认识你,好在你眼前蒙恩。求你想到这民是你的民。耶和华说:我必亲自和你同去,使你得安息。摩西说:你若不亲自和我同去,就不要把我们从这里领上去。人在何事上得以知道我和你的百姓在你眼前蒙恩呢?岂不是因你与我们同去、使我和你的百姓与地上的万民有分别吗?(《出埃及记 33:12-16》)** 大家可能没读出来这个,我稍微给你解释一下。神对摩西说,我按你的名认识你,你在我眼前也蒙了恩。其实神对摩西这种恩,是对他个人的恩啊!就是你这个摩西,我按你的名认识你,你在我眼前也蒙了恩,至于那些歪瓜裂枣,咱不谈。这个摩西厉害在哪呢?**摩西他不是寻求自己蒙恩**。

基督徒是很自私的,基督徒自私到离谱的地步!我不知道你们当中有多少自私的基督徒,我很努力地想改变这种现状。如果摩西只顾自己,哦!神按我的名认识我,very good,真的感谢主!我在神眼前蒙了恩,哦!你看你们这些歪瓜裂枣,你看我多好,我已经蒙恩了,这是何等的自私。 **很多基督徒什么命定也没有,只有自私、贪婪,求的都是自己那点小屁事**。我的工作、我的学习、我的成绩,全是你那点小屁事,神就把你归在歪瓜裂枣那去了。弟兄姐妹,我们为什么要走亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各的路?人家亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各对自己活着这点小屁事,根本就没什么太大意思。**因为亚伯拉罕寻求的是成为地上万族的祝福,以撒、雅各寻求的是成为地上万族的祝福,他们都是有命定的人**。如果你听我查《创世记》,你会看到连他玛从犹大得孩子,都是因为有命定的缘故,大家能逐渐理解这事了吗? 自私是基督徒一个非常要命的事,咱们这么说,过去一年你服侍过谁,你祝福过谁?过去一个月你祝福过谁,你服侍过谁?你心里想的都是个啥?我可得警告大家,**如果你来信主,就是要进流奶和蜜之地,支取神的应许,得着神的恩典,那不是目标**。听明白了吗?我以前是说过这事,但我也说了,那是个副产品,那是要命的选择啊!

我能掰过来多少就掰多少,如果你灾祸还没经历够,知道自己是个歪瓜裂枣,就赶紧悔改,做个正瓜正枣。**开始成为一个有命定的人,在命定之外没有祝福。自私绝对不是一个解决问题的办法,自私绝对不是一个基督徒应该有的样子**。 所以摩西不满足于神说:我按你的名认识你,你在我眼前蒙恩。摩西说:求你将你的道指示我,使我可以认识你,好在你眼前真正的蒙恩。听明白了吗?后面那个恩跟前面的恩不是一个恩,前面那个恩是个人的恩,后面那个恩是带领神百姓的恩,是带领他们成为神的百姓。然后神说: **耶和华说:我必亲自和你同去,使你得安息。摩西说:你若不亲自和我同去,就不要把我们从这地领上去。人在何事上得以知道我和你的百姓在你眼前蒙恩呢?岂不是因你与我们同去,使我和你的百姓与地上的万民有分别吗?(《出埃及记》33:14-16)**

至于那些歪瓜裂枣,就看他们的造化吧。这是何等的心胸,何等的格局!你也要有这样的格局,就算没有,也要创造一个格局出来。整天说,我的成绩没有他好;我的事工没有他好;牧师你对我没有对他好,就是这些事,都是什么格局?满脑子都是恶。你想不想做歪瓜裂枣?我可提醒大家,**想做歪瓜裂枣很容易,啥也不用干,顺着你的性子来就行了**。人家摩西是何等的格局,摩西求的是神啊。 我深深知道神的心意,有时候跟人交往,尤其是有牧师背景的人,心里很辛苦。内心深处我真的巴不得有千万个华人命定神学兴起来。我能做一个就做一个,能做两个就做两个,我苦口婆心地跟人家说,结果人家回应:你有你的解释,我有我的解释;你有你的追求,我有我的追求;你有你的做法,我有我的做法。我也不受伤,为什么不受伤呢?因为不管他怎么说,我能祝福一个就祝福一个,能祝福两个就祝福两个,这是我的命定。 其实每次听到某个牧师把教会干黄了,我心里都很难过。几年前我见过一个牧师,我手把手教他,我买飞机票过去看他。我自己出机票钱、酒店钱,然后在酒店里花很长的时间一课一课的带着他做。最后他自己把教会做黄了,为什么呢?他把教会做成俱乐部了。我难道不知道他是这样的人吗?当然知道,但我心里难过,我没有幸灾乐祸,我没有在那儿想,他们教会的会友可以来我们当中了。我没有,我是心里很难过。

我们的命定不是要成为很多人的祝福吗?大家一定要知道,我带着大家走的路,是成为很多人祝福的路,不是成为蒙祝福的路,**成为很多人祝福的路,就是蒙福的路**。很多时候咱们真的说了不算呀,但能做一个算一个。我的同工常跟我说,老师,你把粮食撒在水面上,日久必有收成。我服侍的这些人,不管我有多忙,都腾出时间来服侍他们。我图什么呢?我图神的心意得着满足。我学的是亚伯拉罕、以撒、雅各、摩西,我看到这些人物的时候,我的感触很深。我不是说,神啊,把他们灭了吧,让他们赶快黄了吧!这不是神的心意。 **人在何事上得以知道我和你的百姓在你眼前蒙恩呢?岂不是因你与我们同去,使我和你的百姓与地上的万民有分别吗?(《出埃及记》33:16)** **神的同在是多么重要。一个小气的人,一个没有格局的人,神怎么与你同在?**你如果真的看重神的同在,你得知道神与什么样的人同在。所以大家要开始琢磨,摩西说的这些话很有意思的。因你与我们同在,使我和你的百姓与地上的万民有分别,好让我们与他们有分别,我们是属于你的百姓。结果神跟摩西说:

**耶和华对摩西说:你这所求的我也要行,因为你在我眼前蒙了恩,并且我按你的名认识你。(《出埃及记》33:17)** 这次不是别的,是真的这样,神要照摩西所求的,让他得着更大的恩典。摩西是什么人?**摩西是一个有史以来最伟大的先知,深深明白神的心意**。然后摩西寻求了这些,神说:你这所求的,我也要这样行。你在我眼前蒙了恩。是因为摩西所求的讨神喜悦,合神心意,正中神的下怀,就像古代的皇帝所说正合朕意。但是摩西还是不满足。 **摩西说:求你显出你的荣耀给我看。(《出埃及记》33:18)** 摩西进一步寻求,摩西寻求的是神的面,神的荣耀。大家知道什么人会寻求这个吗?什么人会寻求神的同在?寻求神的荣耀?寻求神的面?就是把人活着这事都看透的人,才会去寻求这个。如果一个人不能够看透活着的事,他不会去寻求这个,只是寻求吃香的、喝辣的、过好的。流奶和蜜是好,但是流奶和蜜也是个试探,如果不把这些属世界的梦想全都破除掉,人所求的就只是属世界的梦想而已。

有一个生意人,整天寻求的就是我要扩张我的生意,生意,生意!结果欠了银行很多钱。银行可不会跟你开玩笑,你能还得还,你不能还也得还,最后会把你搞破产。弟兄姐妹,**我们在这世上,如果活着全是虚空的虚空,我们还会那么认真吗**?如果透过神,寻求的只是流奶与蜜,这是很麻烦的事。因为你把流奶与蜜当作了你的神。如果一个人知道这是副产品,透过神的心意,走在神的同在当中,所有的这些副产品都会加在他身上。新约圣经也讲到: **你们要先求他的国和他的义,这些东西都要加给你们了。(《马太福音》 6:33 )** 有一次,一个人打电话给我,说能不能为他的钱祷告。我就没有在《圣经》里找到为钱祷告的例子。有人说他家的房子要出租,为他的房子祷告,能找到好的租客。我们求这些东西干啥?有人说他有三个生意,能不能为他祷告,求个印证,看他应该做哪个?你想做哪个,就做哪个,你所求的这些事情,Low到爆! 有人说赶快给他家孩子祷告,他家要生个孩子。我得告诉你,求那个干什么啊?后来我在想,如果生出来一个唐氏综合症,这不就成了我的包袱了吗?有人说他现在有三个工作,要做哪个工作呢?这事重要吗?对你来讲事非常重要,但是对我来讲,一点也不重要。**比起神的同在,世上所有的一切都暗淡无光**。弟兄姐妹,有的时候我不好意思拒绝你,你得知道我的意思是啥。 摩西所求的是看见神的面,那为什么看见神的面这么好呢?人一生在这世上活七八十年、八九十年,活着就为了寻求神的面。难道你是寻求阎王爷的面哪?别活一辈子见到的是阎王爷的面,阎王爷的院子里支了好几口大锅,有的像炸麻花,两个人拧在一起炸;有的人像炸油条,两个黏在一起炸;有的像炸油饼,坨在一起炸,你慢慢琢磨吧。我可不是咒诅你,《圣经》是这么说的。你如果硬着颈项,你要求你自己的东西,你求来的除了灾祸还是灾祸。过去你所经历的灾祸已经证明很多了。

**寻求神的荣耀、寻求神的面、寻求神的同在,这不是今生而已,乃是一直到永恒当中**。有的人说,这道甚难。在咱们当中查经,很多时候我讲着讲着,把很多人讲走了,我认为把人讲走了多好啊!你来错地方了,我得告诉你,我们这地方是寻求神的同在,寻求神的面,寻求神的荣耀。在这个地方,如果你想拿新加坡的公民、永久居民、找工作,这地方虽然有神的祝福,但是你找完了祝福,该干什么就干什么去吧。这地方是有神的恩典,但是如果你眼里只有神的恩典,就麻烦了。 弟兄姐妹,我横下一条心,要把大家带到命定当中,这命定就是我们一直要进到永恒的荣耀当中。**作为基督徒要小心,这些硬着颈项的百姓,都被击杀在旷野里**。就算把耳环和身上的装饰都摘下来,也没有办法逃离神要在旷野里击杀他们。 弟兄姐妹,你说我讲这道难不难呢?也难,也不难,这就要看你选择要什么。如果这不是你想要的,那你要什么就去寻求什么吧,不是还有很多各式各样的教会和福音等你选择吗?如果一个人经历够了,我们是否要醒悟过来,问问自己在寻求什么呢?我好不容易来到世上,我要寻求什么呢?

**摩西寻求什么,我也寻求什么。摩西寻求神的命定,神就与他同在,神就按照他的名召他,施恩给他**。那些寻求流奶与蜜之地的人,最后也没进到流奶和蜜之地,这不是悲剧吗?你说《出埃及记》三十三章,是不是很醒脑啊?弟兄姐妹,**重新开阔我们的格局,到底我们求的是个啥?立定我们所寻求的根基,雷打不动,不管什么样的事情临到,仍然寻求神的荣耀**。 **又说:你不能看见我的面,因为人见我的面不能存活。耶和华说:看哪,在我这里有地方,你要站在磐石上。我的荣耀经过的时候,我必将你放在磐石穴中,用我的手遮掩你,等我过去,然后我要将我的手收回,你就得见我的背,却不得见我的面。(《出埃及记》 33:20-23 )** 摩西虽然不能见神的面、神的荣耀,但他仍然在寻求,神给他看了一个背影。希望有一天,神能把这句话向我们启示显明。最后我再问大家一个问题,你寻求的是什么? 愿神祝福大家!
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